Game is turning into a glass cannon only builds

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awesome999 wrote:

People often use this strawman argument. People who beat dark soul doesn't mean they have to like it. People who like it doesn't have to beat it. People who do not enjoy the game mean continue playing is simply non-justifiable.

This make "Git Gud" argument silly. People insist they should keep eating food they don't like. Quitting make more sense than "Git Gud" honestly. People opinion of how good this game can differ greatly. Or Some people do want this game to be a different game with a different setting.

You wildly changed the meaning of the argument at hand. We aren't arguing whether or not people "like" the game. We are arguing whether the game is "unfair".

There is a massive difference between being unfair and simply being subjectively not fun for certain players.

Mash's post also wasn't a strawman....it is the LITERAL words being used by folks in the last few pages of this thread.

Also.....hate to point it out to you but if someone spends hundreds of hours beating Dark Souls, and then turn around and say they didn't like it. THEY ARE LYING!!!!! You don't spend 100s of hours doing something you don't like in your free time. Which....you also write in your last line. You contradict yourself full 180 degrees in less than 3 full sentences.

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mefistozxz wrote:

You wildly changed the meaning of the argument at hand. We aren't arguing whether or not people "like" the game. We are arguing whether the game is "unfair".

Did I? How is it fair If the Game Developers do not care about you and think you should waste every single second of your life or dollar of your wealth for them? It's in their's best interests that everybody is well treated. Except that is probably not so.

This game is more "fair" to some people than others. What is considered good is in fact bad and what is considered bad is actually good. Saying it is fair when it is not, is foul. Fair is foul and foul is fair. All is not what it seems. If you don't get that, maybe you are a smart person pretending to be ignorant.

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Also.....hate to point it out to you but if someone spends hundreds of hours beating Dark Souls, and then turn around and say they didn't like it. THEY ARE LYING!!!!! You don't spend 100s of hours doing something you don't like in your free time. Which....you also write in your last line. You contradict yourself full 180 degrees in less than 3 full sentences.

This remind of a popular streamer who used to play league of legends. He talk about the many toxic players in that video game. He used to like it, then he don't.

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awesome999 wrote:

Did I? How is it fair If the Game Developers do not care about you and think you should waste every single second of your life or dollar of your wealth for them? It's in their's best interests that everybody is well treated. Except that is probably not so.

This game is more "fair" to some people than others. What is considered good is in fact bad and what is considered bad is actually good. Saying it is fair when it is not, is foul. Fair is foul and foul is fair. All is not what it seems. If you don't get that, maybe you are a smart person pretending to be ignorant.

I encourage you to re-read your last 3 long posts....and try again. You talk in circles, covering literally every possible side, while simultaneously making no actual points. And you confuse very different situations all together, while contradicting yourself across all of them. I'm at a loss as to what you are addressing....anywhere.

Pretty sure thats either a bot or a troll account, has 0 characters and everything. Something GGG needs to implement on this site is prevention for that.

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Mashgesture wrote:

Pretty sure thats either a bot or a troll account, has 0 characters and everything. Something GGG needs to implement on this site is prevention for that.

Perhaps not a troll account based on the post history, but likely an alt account for a main that has received a ban or temporary muting.

This account for me started because of something like that. If I un-hid my profile, I have very few challenges and achievements and currently no active characters. I keep it private so forum warriors don't pre-judge because of that. I like to be involved on the forum. I'm sure he does too.

But I don't believe he has any idea what his own point is anymore.

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mefistozxz wrote:

Perhaps not a troll account based on the post history, but likely an alt account for a main that has received a ban or temporary muting.

This account for me started because of something like that. If I un-hid my profile, I have very few challenges and achievements and currently no active characters. I keep it private so forum warriors don't pre-judge because of that. I like to be involved on the forum. I'm sure he does too.

But I don't believe he has any idea what his own point is anymore.

There is no need for that. Arguing is fruitless. If both parties are digging in and demanding the other person agree with them. Arguing occurs when each person demands change from the other, and neither is willing to acquiesce. What is your whole point of arguing? Are you agreeing with me or am I agreeing with you? Are you really winning?

Calling People trolls if they don't agree with you. It is ad hominem. Apparently People like to use it a lot.

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awesome999 wrote:

There is no need for that. Arguing is fruitless. If both parties are digging in and demanding the other person agree with them. Arguing occurs when each person demands change from the other, and neither is willing to acquiesce. What is your whole point of arguing? Are you agreeing with me or am I agreeing with you? Are you really winning?

Okay Mash, you were right! Even more two-faced non-speak. Definitely a troll account. And he quoted me when I was specifically defending him too lol.

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mefistozxz wrote:

Okay Mash, you were right! Even more two-faced non-speak. Definitely a troll account. And he quoted me when I was specifically defending him too lol.

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