T17 once again are ruining this league can GGG just discard t17 concept?

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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Mashgesture wrote:

The whole massive gap in rewards theory has already been debunked you barely make twice as as much div/hr on these versus T16 strats

you definitely dont make only 2x more in t17 maps that theory have been debunked

I'll ask you a second time then. Go ahead and post a current t17 strategy that goes past 40d/hour. I've been waiting for you to post one for over a month at this point.

t17 is set up by default to be more rewarding. when i run a t17 it has either some or a mix of diviners/arcanist box/nameless sear/wildwwood/sentinel, puzzle box/raw divine drop etc
when i run t16 on the same atlas and same scarabs its not even close...not even close.

this is without any big brain strat...if you do a proper strat the rewarda are much more. but the default plain t17 is already a ton more rewarding than a 8 mod t16

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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Mashgesture wrote:

The whole massive gap in rewards theory has already been debunked you barely make twice as as much div/hr on these versus T16 strats

you definitely dont make only 2x more in t17 maps that theory have been debunked

Yeah, i would also be interested see such a strat, which makes so crazy profits in T17.

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Kharadas wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

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Mashgesture wrote:

The whole massive gap in rewards theory has already been debunked you barely make twice as as much div/hr on these versus T16 strats

you definitely dont make only 2x more in t17 maps that theory have been debunked

Yeah, i would also be interested see such a strat, which makes so crazy profits in T17.

look at what the streamers are doing, snoobae85 has many videos. he only runs t17 now. he tried the same strat in t16 and quit almost immediately and went back to t17...you can guess why.

Looks like I have to post another T16 strategy since people aren't posting any t17 stuff with their own numbers.



Let me know if you need even more strats :^)

i dont see any divines in that loot? when i watch any streamer rut a t17 there is at least 1 raw divine in every map...on top of everything else. i dont know what your goal is in trying to convince people that t16 is just as rewarding as t17 is....but it just wont work. by now everyone knows that t17 is far more rewarding. if you're worried that GGG will nerf t17 loot then dont be....if anything they will nerf t16 further and buff t17 just for the hell of it

The game would be so much better if streamers didn't exist.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

The game would be so much better if streamers didn't exist.

sure i can agree witb that because i know streamers loot is rigged...but i tested it out myself. loot in t17 is so much better than any 8 mod t16....and i dont even roll my t17 for full potential. i just roll the easiest mods and call it a day. even like that the loot is 10x better than any 8 mod t16

Ain't about rigged loot but unrealistic expectations, market meddling, setting trends and sometimes, especially when it comes to YouTube videos, outright lying about how good something is.

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

i dont see any divines in that loot? when i watch any streamer rut a t17 there is at least 1 raw divine in every map...on top of everything else. i dont know what your goal is in trying to convince people that t16 is just as rewarding as t17 is....but it just wont work. by now everyone knows that t17 is far more rewarding. if you're worried that GGG will nerf t17 loot then dont be....if anything they will nerf t16 further and buff t17 just for the hell of it

1. I never said anything about raw divines and my usual comment of "if you're targeting raw divines in tradeleague, you're doing it wrong" still stands. In fact, my post wasn't directed towards you at all. The current discussion is divines per hour.

2. I'm not trying to get T16s to match T17s. I'm trying to debunk the dumb statement of T17s being 5x more rewarding and T16s being worthless by posting full strategies with loot examples.

Yes, T17s are more rewarding. Of course they are. It wouldn't make any sense if they weren't. They're significantly more difficult, harder to obtain and almost three times as big. Right now they're about twice as rewarding as Mashgesture mentioned which is about on par with my numbers.

Also, if this discussion was purely about my playstyle, I would not care in the slightest as my currency comes from Valdo maps because that is the place where you actually can pull 2-3x the lootvalue of T17s.