T17 once again are ruining this league can GGG just discard t17 concept?
" two maps with two different tier levels, shocking concept that the higher tier rewards more. It's like comparing t15 with t16 maps, also two different worlds in terms of rewards. " Cause he's able to run juiced t17 maps consistently, so it be a stupid move to step down and run t16 again? " There was never a t16 nerf to begin with. But I can't be stressed enough to bring it up again but Affliction league is long over. " Source: Trust me bro? Or do you have actual prove to back up that claim? I highly doubt it as streamers simply play better and more optimized than you, and they also spend more time playing the game instead of finding new things to complain about on a daily base. Sounds more like a fomo issue. " So you've already figured out the reason why your loot is worse. Most streamer and experienced players do play more optimized and min-max while you run the bare minimum of those maps without any juice and somehow expect to get the same as others. Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
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"Obviously. Why would it be otherwise? "Brother, you ran a grand total of 36, yes, 36 T17 maps. That sample size is not exactly backing up any of your claims - that's not how statistics work.  "Once again, obviously. A proper strat with investment beats Alc & Go at any given time, as it should be. "Source: trust me bro? Because while T17 is designed to be more rewarding, you can still generate absurd amounts of currency in T16 maps. The difference isn't that massive as some of you make it out to be. "Hyperbole much? "If streamers wouldn't exist more than half of you wouldn't even have a functioning league starter in new leagues. Let's be real. "Once again, another case of "source: trust me bro"? Do you have any actual evidence to back these claims up, or are you just jealous that someone, who plays the game significantly more than you do, generates more loot? Knowledge, efficiency and build aside - where is that fomo coming from, hmm? "I'd like to see a spreadsheet or some videos on that, it's a wild claim without footage. "Obviously. Why would it be otherwise? "Brother, you ran a grand total of 36, yes, 36 T17 maps. That sample size is not exactly backing up any of your claims - that's not how statistics work. "Once again, obviously. A proper strat with investment beats Alc & Go at any given time, as it should be. "Source: trust me bro? Because while T17 is designed to be more rewarding, you can still generate absurd amounts of currency in T16 maps. The difference isn't that massive as some of you make it out to be. "Hyperbole much? "If streamers wouldn't exist more than half of you wouldn't even have a functioning league starter in new leagues. Let's be real. "Once again, another case of "source: trust me bro"? Do you have any actual evidence to back these claims up, or are you just jealous that someone, who plays the game significantly more than you do, generates more loot? Knowledge, efficiency and build aside - where is that fomo coming from, hmm? "I'd like to see a spreadsheet or some videos on that, it's a wild claim without footage. :) | |
" Not that you deserve it with all this complaining instead of playing, but I'm just going to leave this here anyway. Video is Snoobae, who is a top-level T17 juicer, running an 8-mod T16 farm for mirror drops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXxHtdmoW4M “Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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Using divines per hour is so vague and unreliable, everyone takes a different amount of time to complete a map. One person can probably speedrun it like everyone's favorite streamers in 2 minutes, another will take 30 minutes in a fully juiced strongbox map because their loot filter isn't uber giga-omega-rainbow-5000-strict, they just use the default neversink filter. Also the average player isn't gonna bother with 3rd party tools that require your account info just to calculate the worth of their stash tabs and sell every little bubblegum currency one by one. Usually they let their random currencies and fossils etc. etc. rot in their stash all league. I'm one of those people kek
The complaints are simply that you get way more raw divines and valdo boxes, and a LOT of scarabs if you have the right mods rolled on a t17. The difference in rewards is insane just in the base map itself before you even add any mechanics to it, that can't really be disputed when the richest players are all living in t17s all day lol I mean the loot explosions from titanic exiles are stupid, I'm expecting a nerf or full-on deletion of titanic scarabs next patch. And also I believe t17s just have a better chance of having rarer types of strongboxes, in the few I've done with ambush scarabs they always had wayyy more arcanist and diviner boxes than a normal t16 mesa with the exact same scarabs. Who knows what kinds of other hidden quant and rarity modifiers these maps have that GGG haven't told the players about. Let's not forget GGG hoped they could just kick the "deleted all quant and rarity bonuses of literally every league mechanic monster in the game" change under the rug, and almost didn't tell their players about it in their own patch notes. They had to tell us only because it got datamined. T17s are just bad for the game and bad for the economy. The only people they're good for is the 0.1% that can farm them and streamers farming magebloods in them all day on their mirror-tier builds. Last edited by Toforto on Oct 23, 2024, 3:32:24 PM
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" Most of all players are able to farm t17 on their mediocre gear week 1-2 on a fresh league start with mediocre gear way before mirror tier gets on the market, or even ssf. Have you just tried to play a better build or practice to get better? Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun.
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So.. ignore all proof thatT16 can generate more loot than the average T17... continue complaining about how T17's ruin everything. (while also complaining that your refusal to use the tool available to you makes your profit suffer)
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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" is that from the live i watched weeks ago? i dont think he went back to t16 so it must be. yes i already said in my previous post that he ran some t16 also,so not sure why you're linking it...someone like that could run yellow maps and come back with mirrors. the point is he went back to t17 as soon as he recorded that video. why? because its 10x more rewarding. |
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"So you're saying skill issue if you aren't able to make currency regardless of tier? "Or maybe, just maybe, that guy in particular is an outlier and makes a living from streaming various strats in different tiers? You know, to provide actual data that compares? All while making content for his Twitch and Youtube in the process? Where is your 10x more rewarding figure coming from? Surely not the handful of T17's you ran this league... | |
" and how many have you run mr 9 challenges? do you even play the league at all? |
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" Click the link before you go back to parroting your unfounded claims (reminds me of a certain person in the US news lately) Video is 17 hrs old. Yes he goes back to T17, because he says this farm is too hard for his build gear, and because he is a content creator working on a 1k map series. “Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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