T17 once again are ruining this league can GGG just discard t17 concept?

so axe is 70 div and amulet is 50..2 items alone are over 100 divs...no wonder t17 is so easy for you.

Once more before I had those two items I had a single divine axe and a 1c amulet before min max'ing the char.

Not a hard concept.

Yes it's easy.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

Once more before I had those two items I had a single divine axe and a 1c amulet before min max'ing the char.

Not a hard concept.

Yes it's easy.

its easy to say that...you have a video for proof where you destroy t17's with budget gear?

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

no that amulet adds a ton of defense with the enchants you have...are you sayin t17 would be just as easy with a 1c amulet? lol

You need to look past his min/max build and look at the previous comments on pricing.

The comment from the previous user used it as an example to support "price requirements" for t17s, which failed miserably when I provided evidence to the contrary.


Just because Conconut is wearing that gear doesnt mean its required for t17s.


Our builds are nearly identical, im just playing bleed ES Chief and they are playing hit ES Jugg.

They could throw on all the shit I linked and blast t17s just like me.

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MadMossy wrote:

As for the my play time, I do play a fair amount sure, but it's more than possible to reach 90+ on a char in 1 play session from level 1 if your efficient and use the available tools to do so.

Apply this same logic to challenges. And this also quickly falls apart.

And look at the one I havent done as well.

I'm not denying you were able to do T17s at all, you obviously can, I was doing them at level 80 on a hexblast miner with below average gear, but it certainly wasn't smooth and deathless.

And that build did 10x more damage than your jugg.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

LOL my build is NOT 100 DIVINES HAHA

This fucking build of mine can be done with 5 divines and it will shit on t17s not even a contest do you know why?

IT'S A PROPER BUILD.

Your axe alone is 70 divine+

Simple fact of the matter is T17s suck, they are too annoying for many people and far too much "loot" has been gated around them and the content they enable access too.

The only high value items in my current build (the trickster) is my ephemeral edge with resolute technique, the rest of my items are <5d each.


As for the my play time, I do play a fair amount sure, but it's more than possible to reach 90+ on a char in 1 play session from level 1 if your efficient and use the available tools to do so.

I used a 1 divine axe before making this.

I will dismantle any argument against me with the usual quote of mine a fucking snap of my finger.

This char can be done with 2 divines and it will shit on a t17 BECAUSE IT'S A CORRECT CHAR holy shit that's so hard it doesn't have 999999 damage or 999999 defense It's a middle a fucking rock between.

YOU can't understand that that's the fascinating part NOR that one guy which is even better.

Source: Trust me bro.

Truth is your character is not anymore "correct" than any other character. GGG doesn't have a specific character in mind for endgame content, or at least didn't use too. T17's are very very stupid and the best advice I can give is use a scarab of bisection on the t17 mod, use the life flask pantheon, and don't use any map effect on the atlas tree.

The fact is that GGG isn't happy with the state of T17s and they keep having to adjust them to be easier because they don't fit with the vibe of poe's endgame.

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roundishcap wrote:

The fact is that GGG isn't happy with the state of T17s and they keep having to adjust them to be easier because they don't fit with the vibe of poe's endgame.

Where and when was this said?

They adjusted them once this league

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roundishcap wrote:

Source: Trust me bro.

No.


I feel like this is AN all over again. Where the first nerf, sure I will agree it was a bit over the top.

But the subsequent 5 after that was just absolute cry babies getting their way.

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

so axe is 70 div and amulet is 50..2 items alone are over 100 divs...no wonder t17 is so easy for you.

but isn't that exactly the point?

All content becomes easy in a 12 year old game, in an RPG where item stats matter, you will inevitably become powerful enough to trample the content, soon they put things in the game that ignore your items, but over time you learn how to avoid these things, so everything will inevitably be easy.
The chasm that is created here is between those who have 20H/d to waste in the game, preferably in the first days of the league when the loot is OBVIOUSLY better to help the streamers.
There is no problem with the difficulty of the uber bosses or t17. For me the problem is the emptying of everything else. They removed the loot from everything else and hid it behind the "uber" content. And so the game that had builds of literally 1c doing everything now requires a minimum of 100d to start.

The problem with t17s is the same as Diablo's rifts, it's not because they're difficult, it's because they're boring and repetitive, they're just an abyss of wasted time.

Bad players have problem with T17 not because T17 are hard (because they're easy af now, like barely any difference between t14 and t17), not because GGG hide all loot from them (because they don't), but because bad players are bad players, yet expect to do equally well as better players. T17 are on farm since first weekend with starter builds and gear, if you have problems with it after a month, or in standard after years, it is on you.