T17 once again are ruining this league can GGG just discard t17 concept?

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Echothesis wrote:

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Mashgesture wrote:

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Its just very odd to me that the majority of people with the most opinions on t17s have the least experience with them. But that's why its important for GGG to see stuff like this when considering changes.

I dont want players like this dictating any idea of balance at that level, they are not qualified. This would be the equivalent of someone playing 2 minutes of Elden ring and then complaining to the devs that the game is too hard.

You need more experience, and more research to really have a better and more critical angle to have something actionable to say about these kinds of things.

Even if your childish behaviour during our "stream" didn't hint at this, now you again admitted you are not a developer, and likely don't know first thing about game design.

GGG_Neon account from recent announcement had 12 settlers challenges on live server. If those who make balance decisions actually grinded the game as much as you, we wouldn't be in this mess, as they would've seen how many mechanics are outdated and cannot scale well enough to T17 level.

Yesterday I tried making Ice storm build from whispering ice staff, was long interested to see the scaling. With 1100+ int and crits, damage is absolutely pathetic, not even oneshotting T16. While I am tanky and can outlast everything just standing under frost shield with arctic armor and behind frost walls, the spell is shit. And it was designed by people you respect so much.

Even if GGG plays their own game, it likely consists of a short runs on a debug servers with console commands. Playtime is by no means a definition of "experience". I watched this game for 3 years, and don't need to grind it 24/7 to have an opinion.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

Neon was always high tier top wtf u talking about LOL look it his past history anyone who knows the guy ESPECIALLY the HC community will tell you that.

Stop.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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Strickl3r wrote:

One of the devs must have made it to to t17s in hc ;P See patch

Neon_GGG is considered top 5 HC in every league and hes QOL I ono what you're talking about lol

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Strickl3r wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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Strickl3r wrote:

One of the devs must have made it to to t17s in hc ;P See patch

Neon_GGG is considered top 5 HC in every league and hes QOL I ono what you're talking about lol

sense of humor zero out of ten. congratz

nobody died lol, some mobs got changed related to dd which affects the Abomination map.

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

Neon was always high tier top wtf u talking about LOL look it his past history anyone who knows the guy ESPECIALLY the HC community will tell you that.

Stop.

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Cant just stay back at Baran and the other idiots forever, in the -chaos res days and no armor, have to move on.

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Mashgesture wrote:

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

Neon was always high tier top wtf u talking about LOL look it his past history anyone who knows the guy ESPECIALLY the HC community will tell you that.

Stop.

Yea Echo just has no idea what they are going on about anymore, not sure they ever did. They have managed to be wrong so many times about everything that its just kind of sad at this point. They cant seem to get their story straight on anything.

Phys one shots but not phys one shots but elemental but not elemental hits but chaos.... T17s the problem, but not the entire t17 is the problem just the bosses, but not the bosses just the defenses required for some of those bosses. Neon not being a high tier player, but wait actually he is... My characters dps but not actually not characters dps but theirs ...

Its crazy to me how someone can be this wrong so many times and played poe longer than I have. This is like all the people thinking melee was going to be bad this patch and have all these issues. Just consistently wrong on everything. I guarantee I would see similar results if I brought any of those players into a map let a lone a t17.


I completely called it too.

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Cant just stay back at Baran and the other idiots forever, in the -chaos res days and no armor, have to move on.

Their character was probably built-pre maven back when people were running negative chaos res cause nothing did chaos damage besides Sirus and easy to dodge al-hezmin. That thing looks like it was made several years ago. They need to learn more about the game in the last ... 3 years before worrying about balance at the t17 level.

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Echothesis wrote:

To write "because of phys oneshots" once, and to have entire lawsuit built against you based on it, because apparently if you didn't write it to the letter of law "because many boss mechanics can oneshot with different damage types", you are now a fraud... Over the years I have seen many absurd aggression looking over gaming forums, many of them worth a meme, and this is nice addition to that collection :)