Most skill gems are unusable without specific gear

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Echothesis wrote:

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Your outlook on game balance is incredibly boring and reductive

As said to you before, if you like poe as it is, I am happy for you. Having to repeat same proxy framework "insert a skill here" builds, and same defense stacking framework every league can also be called boring, glad it works for you.

If it weren't for poe 2 there would have been a meta shift in the mean time is my guess. The meta changed so many times in the past. Right now it is what 5-6 leagues? 3.16 maybe since they introduced spell suppression dunno, not that big of a deal imo. They can't completely shift the meta every other league...

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Riorrrrrr wrote:

Actually, it should be the customer's decision. And you can't change the taste of the food in a restaurant after ripping off money for an overpriced order...

I tried out a lot of skills and for me it was a clown show... how can it be that so many things don't work and are absolutely pointless...?

If you don't play your own game (and maybe even hate it?!), why not just listen to players??? because that's the only way to avoid going bankrupt...

We can establish that you live in an alternate reality at this point lmao.

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Strickl3r wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

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Your outlook on game balance is incredibly boring and reductive

As said to you before, if you like poe as it is, I am happy for you. Having to repeat same proxy framework "insert a skill here" builds, and same defense stacking framework every league can also be called boring, glad it works for you.

If it weren't for poe 2 there would have been a meta shift in the mean time is my guess. The meta changed so many times in the past. Right now it is what 5-6 leagues? 3.16 maybe since they introduced spell suppression dunno, not that big of a deal imo. They can't completely shift the meta every other league...

The goal seems to be to ruin all usable items/specs?
This is also the case with Warframe. Before the big patch, all popular things become unusable. This allows devs to sell new content.

But what is supposed to be achieved here... probably not even God knows. because there is this embarrassing artificial reset?! and standard legue is even deader than this forum?...

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Strickl3r wrote:

If it weren't for poe 2 there would have been a meta shift in the mean time is my guess. The meta changed so many times in the past. Right now it is what 5-6 leagues? 3.16 maybe since they introduced spell suppression dunno, not that big of a deal imo. They can't completely shift the meta every other league...

Whatever the shift, I doubt they'll do anything about the proxy domination, e.g. multiplying cast instance via traps, totems, minions. Selfcast will remain as lame as always. Even if you can do good damage with selfcast, your dps is still 0 when you are running and not casting.

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Echothesis wrote:

Whatever the shift, I doubt they'll do anything about the proxy domination, e.g. multiplying cast instance via traps, totems, minions. Selfcast will remain as lame as always. Even if you can do good damage with selfcast, your dps is still 0 when you are running and not casting.

You can go on poe.ninja right now and check selfcast vs "lame" secondary damage builds. You'd be surprised

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

Whatever the shift, I doubt they'll do anything about the proxy domination, e.g. multiplying cast instance via traps, totems, minions. Selfcast will remain as lame as always. Even if you can do good damage with selfcast, your dps is still 0 when you are running and not casting.

You can go on poe.ninja right now and check selfcast vs "lame" secondary damage builds. You'd be surprised

You are a true master of dodging the topic, respect :)

I never said no one is playing self-cast now, I said it is and will be detrimental for human players while fully automatic builds exist. Yes, you can partially offset the drawbacks by using unleash or banking at dot so you can snipe once and then have a time window to dodge without losing dps. But humans still cannot match AI doing the targeting for them, at breakneck speeds of this game.

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Riorrrrrr wrote:

The goal seems to be to ruin all usable items/specs?
This is also the case with Warframe. Before the big patch, all popular things become unusable. This allows devs to sell new content.

But what is supposed to be achieved here... probably not even God knows. because there is this embarrassing artificial reset?! and standard legue is even deader than this forum?...

What? Are you even playing poe right now? We have had power creep galore the last two leagues. Just not every skill is viable, yeah well...

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Echothesis wrote:

You are a true master of dodging the topic, respect :)

I never said no one is playing self-cast now, I said it is and will be detrimental for human players while fully automatic builds exist. Yes, you can partially offset the drawbacks by using unleash or banking at dot so you can snipe once and then have a time window to dodge without losing dps. But humans still cannot match AI doing the targeting for them, at breakneck speeds of this game.

I disagree with infantilizing players to the point where you have to pretend that a human cannot play the game because it is "too fast". That is simply not the case lmao.

Many players prefer playing selfcast to e.g. totems because there's a bigger delay between just casting a spell yourself and summoning a totem that casts the spell for you (which comes with a 40% less cast speed modifier FYI).

You mentioned Explosive Arrow before. That skill comes with 2 built-in delays where you have to a) place the totem and b) wait for the fuse to go off (+1 second base).

And lets not pretend that totem targeting matches human players, who are you kidding? They always target what is closest to them, not what is best. This means that skills with an AoE will not be placed where they'd indeed be best. Not to mention the fact that you cannot proc secondary effects like Herald of Ice or Herald of Ash with secondary damage.

I play at least one or two totem builds every season, so I know what I am talking about. Do you?

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ArtCrusade wrote:

I disagree with infantilizing players to the point where you have to pretend that a human cannot play the game because it is "too fast". That is simply not the case lmao.

Many players prefer playing selfcast to e.g. totems because there's a bigger delay between just casting a spell yourself and summoning a totem that casts the spell for you (which comes with a 40% less cast speed modifier FYI).

You mentioned Explosive Arrow before. That skill comes with 2 built-in delays where you have to a) place the totem and b) wait for the fuse to go off (+1 second base).

And lets not pretend that totem targeting matches human players, who are you kidding? They always target what is closest to them, not what is best. This means that skills with an AoE will not be placed where they'd indeed be best. Not to mention the fact that you cannot proc secondary effects like Herald of Ice or Herald of Ash with secondary damage.

I play at least one or two totem builds every season, so I know what I am talking about. Do you?

When you clear your 500th map this league on selfcast/strike/arrow shot, are you still diligent in your targeting into same blanket shifting mass of nameless mobs?:) We both know you just mash primary button in the general direction of the enemies center mass and let aoe/pierce/fork/explode on death take care of the rest.

Proxy users also have aoe/projectile coverage, so targeting closest works anyway, who cares what is "best" when you have dps to lay waste to them all in 1 sec?

About mechanics delays between cast and damage, this is merely a QoL annoyance, not a hard dps wall, which is where imbalance exists. Some think more dps is worth the stutter, some are annoyed by it, me included. My staple farming build (fallback replenishing stock for another experimental shitty build character) was CoC, which doesn't have drawbacks of totems and selfcast - instant damage + autotargeting + wide area clear.

However I cannot possibly match totem bossers on the CoC, uber bosses were beyond my reach and I had to buy things from their loot pool for my characters.

Sanctum is also a haven for proxies and for little else, heard it is shockwave totems with astral projector that farm the shit out of it while melee users try to forget it exists.