Game for trade scammers.

Fine, let's elaborate:

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Terrible idea - if it's easy to verify you are human then it's also easy for bots, if it's hard then you just frustrate and piss off legit users.


Unless you wish to buy 10 deals per minute, it will still save time compared to what we have now. I assume "normal" player only buys something from time to time. Literally living off the trade needs discouraging, current system does it splendidly, but also discourages normal players. Verification in combination with listing cooldown also stops spam listings.

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Waste of time, why would you care who you sell to as long as it sells?


Importable loot filters can also be called waste of time from this perspective, ignore lists are to allow community to protect itself, taking load off GGG hands. The very starting of this topic was about how lenient GGG is with scammers and such.

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Even worse idea than #1, how does it stop price fixing or trolling if there's no obligation to sell at the listed price?


If you are selling expensive item for the first time, you'll need this to avoid making mistakes at the cost of potentially losing a deal if buyer goes for another deal because you didn't confirm in time. On the other hand, most bread and butter deals such as bulk trading currency can be done dozens of times faster than current system.

Price fixing is not a system attribute, it is human attribute because humans decide if the price for a given item is "correct". Only "cure" from it is to having more average players participate in trade, so it would be harder to con the market. Which AH can help with by definition, compared to current trade accessibility.

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Doesn't satisfactorily solve any problems, introduces a whole load more. The current system while not perfect is better than most of the "solutions" people keep touting.


Trying to do something is statistically better than sitting on same old rusty system for years and telling yourself it cannot be improved. Their choice.
If you think that GGG doesnt care about scammers you'd be wrong. Theres many things that can allow you to not get scammed. I have never been scammed in this game because I used my brain cells to judge and validate. I dont assume anything. Sounds like you can't determine was is and isnt a scam which is a you problem.
Game for trade scammers an people who can actually read lol
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esostaks wrote:
Hate to break it, but even though it sucks to be scammed, trade scams are 100% your own fault. The game/devs made sure that you can't accept trade unless you've hovered over items traded to you. If you dear your hard earned currency so much, then why can't you take a few more seconds to inspect the items and make sure you are not getting scammed?


love every word of this reply.
Nice story bro
i've never been scammed yet. not even once.

i dont deal with unsafe trades and always look twice before accepting. ez
Trading involves two people.

You get a trade window.

You put your part in your section.

They put their part in their section.

You have to have each party hover over with their mouse.

When you hover over an item, this thing called text appears, you can also see the icon. What you do is, the item you wanted, you make sure that item is the one you wanted.

When you have spent that few seconds to make sure it's the correct item and both items from both parties are approved. You accept.

This is an amazing strategy I have used to have never been scammed in POE. I hope it helps you, good luck warrior.

Last edited by poeGT on Oct 6, 2023, 10:59:21 AM
Yesterday I tried to buy one item for three divines but I didn't notice that I only have two in my stash and the three that you can see in the middle of the currency stash tab are exalts. Since divine practically became of little value and divines became more valuable (and I really rarely buy anything with these orbs because I don't play that much), I forget that they are in a different place in the currency stash and when I put these 3 exalts in the transaction basket, the seller asked me what it was about because it wasn't divine then I realized that it wasn't actually these orbs and that I was in his hideout, I didn't know where his chest was and I couldn't check if I had 3 divine in my stash. I canceled the transaction and started to apologize to him for the mistake, but he immediately wrote that he took a screenshot and that it was a scam and that he would post it on reddit. I went back to my HO and checked, it turned out that I only had 2 divines and I wrote to him that unfortunately I wouldn't buy from him because I didn't have that many divines, then I pasted these two divines in the chat to make him look like I was telling the truth and I didn't want to cheat him. I wrote to him that I had never cheated anyone in PoE and would never do it and that it was just my mistake, but he didn't want to believe me. I understand that there are plenty of scammers trying to scam someone, but why the hell do such sellers treat everyone the same and immediately assume that everyone is a scammer?
I don't know if I'd been reported to GGG or not, I hope not. How could I risk losing my only account by trying to scam someone? I have PoE account since blosed beta.
I think divines should be swapped with exalts in currency stash because they are the most valuable currency now.
Last edited by Thoian on Oct 8, 2023, 9:57:57 AM
This thread is basically "Victim Blaming: The Thread".

Each player should only have to worry about doing their part of the deal correctly, and not also have to worry about the other player doing their's wrong (on purpose).

There are reasons scams get punished in the real-life economy. Games are supposed to be fun, and scams do not increase the enjoyment for those who got scammed, so why blame the victims?

As is, the prevalence of scams is one of the reasons I'm only playing SSF. No clue why anyone would defend scammers. It's not the victim's job to make sure the other player is playing correctly. It's also not the victim's fault the scammer is scamming.
Last edited by PraceAce on Oct 8, 2023, 1:08:50 PM
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PraceAce wrote:
This thread is basically "Victim Blaming: The Thread".

Each player should only have to worry about doing their part of the deal correctly, and not also have to worry about the other player doing their's wrong (on purpose).

There are reasons scams get punished in the real-life economy. Games are supposed to be fun, and scams do not increase the enjoyment for those who got scammed, so why blame the victims?

As is, the prevalence of scams is one of the reasons I'm only playing SSF. No clue why anyone would defend scammers. It's not the victim's job to make sure the other player is playing correctly. It's also not the victim's fault the scammer is scamming.


What? It's not the "victims" job to make sure the other person is playing correctly?

So it's not your job to check what the other player put in the trade tab?

No-one is a victim, you have a simple game system in place to prevent scamming, it's IS up to you, to use it if not then don't trade.

Telling people they have a basic intellectual responsibility of simply hovering and checking the item being swapped for is not "blaming" it's rudimentary common sense.

Scammers can't scam if you pay attention to the simple trading system given to you. It's really that simple, enough projection please. No-ones supporting scammers, that's just a strawman, they are just telling you that there's a very simple way of preventing it.
Last edited by poeGT on Oct 9, 2023, 11:38:19 AM

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