Game for trade scammers.

Bots that play the game are a very different thing from trading bots. Trading bots are actually useful because they are often the only ones that respond to you, especially in low-value trades. It's the closest thing to an auction house lol
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Auction house is 100% the more pleasant option. Don't give a damn what everyone else says, getting rid of price fixers would be the best thing to happen to this game. Bots will always be around anyway. Try to sell delirium orbs for example. Wish buying bods were faster though

An action house would instantly kill SC trade. Its the worst idea ever.
It didn't kill D3 trade. I played through it, I know. But somehow if GGG say it will that means it certainly will. Despite all the boogeyman like bots, third party services and the word that shall not be named already existing en masse
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Vennto wrote:
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Auction house is 100% the more pleasant option. Don't give a damn what everyone else says, getting rid of price fixers would be the best thing to happen to this game. Bots will always be around anyway. Try to sell delirium orbs for example. Wish buying bods were faster though

An action house would instantly kill SC trade. Its the worst idea ever.


A lot of people would be perfectly fine with this, since trading this game is quite frequently a rather miserable experience.
General discussion gaming forums are almost always a cesspit of ignorance and trolls.
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Angrybagel wrote:
since trading this game is quite frequently a rather miserable experience.

Seems like it is working as intended.
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Auction house is 100% the more pleasant option. Don't give a damn what everyone else says, getting rid of price fixers would be the best thing to happen to this game. Bots will always be around anyway. Try to sell delirium orbs for example. Wish buying bods were faster though


It would not fix anything, at the least it would make trading even worse as bots get to buy out everything instantly vs having a delay between each trade and the amount of update requests you can do on the trade website.

A auction house would also not help to get rid of any price fixers as bots would still list items for a lower price and buy out any listed item for the wrong price instantly. If anything the current system is great as you can easily just adjust your price or recheck the price if you get a insane amount of whisper spam on a listed item. And you can also just block obvious bots and sell your stuff to normal players. That doesn't help the bot issue but all the trade bots would be useless if anyone would stop selling them shit.

I'm not talking about the normal bots with all the few c trade offers or cookie currency as they are somewhat useful I guess. But I'm talking about all the player bots who buy out invitations, certain maps/fragments, sextants, beasts to resell them for a higher value or whatnot.

Won't ever happen but if anything the best way to fix trading in this game is by removing trading entirely, and re balance the loot/crafting for ssf/small party play and not a large market.
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Last edited by Pashid on Sep 30, 2023, 4:31:13 PM
What?

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A auction house would also not help to get rid of any price fixers as bots would still list items for a lower price and buy out any listed item for the wrong price instantly.



How? If you list an item for a lower price it will be bought, you literally won't be able to price fix anymore because your low offers designed to bait noobs will be bought instead
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Johny_Snow wrote:

How? If you list an item for a lower price it will be bought, you literally won't be able to price fix anymore because your low offers designed to bait noobs will be bought instead


Bots will just continue to list the item over and over again and still make a decent net profit out of it even with the lose of some currency cause there will be always enough listings from other players with the wrong price to come up for that. And yes these bots will buy out any wrong listing right away.
Bots do it pretty much the same way in every other game with a existing large market, and a market board/ auction house. PoE wouldn't be any different if it had a auction house.
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Last edited by Pashid on Sep 30, 2023, 4:44:31 PM
This doesn't make sense. You yourself said that bots will instantly buy items. So how in the hell are you going to price fix when other bots will instantly buy your price fixed lower-than-minimum item?
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Johny_Snow wrote:
How? If you list an item for a lower price it will be bought, you literally won't be able to price fix anymore because your low offers designed to bait noobs will be bought instead


How!? Because an automated system would be a bot heaven. Sure, they can't price fix by snapping up underpriced items, but they could easily corner the market, automatically, by buying up everything... Again... Automatically. Once the bot runners have a certain amount of starting capital, they own the market.

At least now, you have the ability to not sell to people you suspect are doing shade business. Most of us don't bother, but you can.
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.

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