Play POE until you turn gray and give GGG all your money and precious time

everything is doomed...
What about just play and have fun instead of wasting the time of calculate every aspect of the divines? What if there was none divines? It is your free choice though what to do with the time, so either play or not - and either count all divines or not.

Or if some kind of gamling addiction try to solve that. This is or could be a serious issue but divines and the best gear with max roll om everything is like:
(p = ~0)

Do you see the same thing with for example Football Manager? Beating that game will also take forever - because there is no end in any of them! It ends when you end it.
Bro is projecting his lack of skill really hard, or trolling whatever. You know you can just not play, right?
Second-class poe gamer
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ATIX89 wrote:
What about just play and have fun instead of wasting the time of calculate every aspect of the divines? What if there was none divines? It is your free choice though what to do with the time, so either play or not - and either count all divines or not.

Or if some kind of gamling addiction try to solve that. This is or could be a serious issue but divines and the best gear with max roll om everything is like:
(p = ~0)

Do you see the same thing with for example Football Manager? Beating that game will also take forever - because there is no end in any of them! It ends when you end it.


I have tried to have fun from gaming in POE till the moment when I have realized that it make no sense due to the fact that with every game update - developer changing game rules. I remember the day when drop rate for every currency was much higher than today. It is look like that to increase his income - GGG are making game hardener for players. Character classes are nerfed with every patch, currency drop rate is decreased.
I even can bet that poe trade is controlled by GGG (by bots) to manipulate marketplace and force players to spend more time in POE to achieve the same that we were able by doing a twice less or play twice less time, which we were able even few months ago.
I remember when 1 Divine orb was cost amount of 90 Chaos orb, now is ... 300 !!! (SIC!)
Last edited by neosphoros on Sep 7, 2023, 10:09:56 AM
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neosphoros wrote:
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ATIX89 wrote:
What about just play and have fun instead of wasting the time of calculate every aspect of the divines? What if there was none divines? It is your free choice though what to do with the time, so either play or not - and either count all divines or not.

Or if some kind of gamling addiction try to solve that. This is or could be a serious issue but divines and the best gear with max roll om everything is like:
(p = ~0)

Do you see the same thing with for example Football Manager? Beating that game will also take forever - because there is no end in any of them! It ends when you end it.


I have tried to have fun from gaming in POE till the moment when I have realized that it make no sense due to the fact that with every game update - developer changing game rules. I remember the day when drop rate for every currency was much higher than today. It is look like that to increase his income - GGG are making game hardener for players. Character classes are nerfed with every patch, currency drop rate is decreased.
I even can bet that poe trade is controlled by GGG (by bots) to manipulate marketplace and force players to spend more time in POE to achieve the same that we were able by doing a twice less or play twice less time, which we were able even few months ago.
I remember when 1 Divine orb was cost amount of 90 Chaos orb, now is ... 300 !!! (SIC!)
Simple game, infinite loot and strong skills with weak mobs results in no one will play it. If we change everything to the opposite we get almost the same outcome, expect that some will wry to at least kill Hillock if they ever can kill the zombie. Then we need to change that meter a bit but small steps til we get it to a few players will do the most content, the most will do a lot of maps and some will have it tough as hell. Then all have something to aim at, and you get rewarded for that work in, "yes I did it" - no matter what other have finished. And the 1337 will also have some status so all get something. That point is the best if you want a game to survive.

When all will just get the reward without doing the work we will feel like eating candy instead of taking a walk. Its good for a fewseconds or minutes if you are lucky. The walk (or running if prefered) give a real "good feeling". And yes, that walk will give a better feeling even if the game is hard and you reach all goals. But why chose or want to have the worst option? No one have status, no one have any goals to aim at and no one get the feeling "i did it". We will all play ruthless within a week then! (If we even play ...)


EDIT: The rest - things change in the world. You can never find a good argument to why it would be better if a divine cost 90 chaos instead of 300 and I can not say it would be good if a divine would cost 5 000 chaos. Doesn't matter at all. Perspective good game - not good gear for you or all!
Last edited by ATIX89 on Sep 7, 2023, 11:04:01 AM
i misread the title. my mind switched gray for something else and it was funnier ngl.
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imanubcake wrote:
Are you really suggesting that people that play SSF use RMT? holy shit you just made my day


and that one made mine ;)
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ATIX89 wrote:
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neosphoros wrote:
Spoiler
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ATIX89 wrote:
What about just play and have fun instead of wasting the time of calculate every aspect of the divines? What if there was none divines? It is your free choice though what to do with the time, so either play or not - and either count all divines or not.

Or if some kind of gamling addiction try to solve that. This is or could be a serious issue but divines and the best gear with max roll om everything is like:
(p = ~0)

Do you see the same thing with for example Football Manager? Beating that game will also take forever - because there is no end in any of them! It ends when you end it.


I have tried to have fun from gaming in POE till the moment when I have realized that it make no sense due to the fact that with every game update - developer changing game rules. I remember the day when drop rate for every currency was much higher than today. It is look like that to increase his income - GGG are making game hardener for players. Character classes are nerfed with every patch, currency drop rate is decreased.
I even can bet that poe trade is controlled by GGG (by bots) to manipulate marketplace and force players to spend more time in POE to achieve the same that we were able by doing a twice less or play twice less time, which we were able even few months ago.
I remember when 1 Divine orb was cost amount of 90 Chaos orb, now is ... 300 !!! (SIC!)
Simple game, infinite loot and strong skills with weak mobs results in no one will play it. If we change everything to the opposite we get almost the same outcome, expect that some will wry to at least kill Hillock if they ever can kill the zombie. Then we need to change that meter a bit but small steps til we get it to a few players will do the most content, the most will do a lot of maps and some will have it tough as hell. Then all have something to aim at, and you get rewarded for that work in, "yes I did it" - no matter what other have finished. And the 1337 will also have some status so all get something. That point is the best if you want a game to survive.

When all will just get the reward without doing the work we will feel like eating candy instead of taking a walk. Its good for a fewseconds or minutes if you are lucky. The walk (or running if prefered) give a real "good feeling". And yes, that walk will give a better feeling even if the game is hard and you reach all goals. But why chose or want to have the worst option? No one have status, no one have any goals to aim at and no one get the feeling "i did it". We will all play ruthless within a week then! (If we even play ...)


EDIT: The rest - things change in the world. You can never find a good argument to why it would be better if a divine cost 90 chaos instead of 300 and I can not say it would be good if a divine would cost 5 000 chaos. Doesn't matter at all. Perspective good game - not good gear for you or all!


Do not play a good daddy and do not try to convince me that GGG doing all of those "good things" for us, becouse this is not true. Fact is that GGG is making good only for himself and in fact all of those what you have wrote is making the game - rigged. Since everything is there because GGG wants it, the player actually has no control over the game, and it is purely illusory. No one can verify the currency drop rate, no one can verify the damage dealt by enemies, so one can clearly conclude that everything can also be changed on the spot for the needs of GGG. Due to the fact that game demand to be still connected to the internet - non of the players can be even sure that have the same possibilities like the other player. Does the game make any sense for us in this case? Those who are supposed to win for GGG's needs simply win, and those who GGG "doesn't like" lose, and all for the sake of money, of course... but is that what the game is really supposed to look like? Is that not going in the wrong direction? The game is supposed to relax and entertain, not manipulate.

Fact is that GGG have invent new form of cheating but it will break the world due to the fact that this kind of manipulation is over controll and it will lead to unpredictable consequances.
Last edited by neosphoros on Sep 14, 2023, 3:39:39 PM
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neosphoros wrote:
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Do not play a good daddy and do not try to convince me that GGG doing all of those "good things" for us, becouse this is not true. Fact is that GGG is making good only for himself and in fact all of those what you have wrote is making the game - rigged. Since everything is there because GGG wants it, the player actually has no control over the game, and it is purely illusory. No one can verify the currency drop rate, no one can verify the damage dealt by enemies, so one can clearly conclude that everything can also be changed on the spot for the needs of GGG. Due to the fact that game demand to be still connected to the internet - non of the players can be even sure that have the same possibilities like the other player. Does the game make any sense for us in this case? Those who are supposed to win for GGG's needs simply win, and those who GGG "doesn't like" lose, and all for the sake of money, of course... but is that what the game is really supposed to look like? Is that not going in the wrong direction? The game is supposed to relax and entertain, not manipulate.


Fact is that GGG have invent new form of cheating but it will break the world due to the fact that this kind of manipulation is over controll and it will lead to unpredictable consequances.

Did you quote the correct person? I can't answer you sorry because I have not mention what you are talking about.

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1. ...do not try to convince me that GGG doing all of those "good things" for us ...

2. Fact is that GGG is making good only for himself and in fact all of those what you have wrote is making the game - rigged.

3. Since everything is there because GGG wants it, the player actually has no control over the game, and it is purely illusory.

4. No one can verify the currency drop rate, no one can verify the damage dealt by enemies, so one can clearly conclude that everything can also be changed on the spot for the needs of GGG.

5. Due to the fact that game demand to be still connected to the internet - non of the players can be even sure that have the same possibilities like the other player.

6. Those who are supposed to win for GGG's needs simply win, and those who GGG "doesn't like" lose, and all for the sake of money, of course... but is that what the game is really supposed to look like? Is that not going in the wrong direction?

7. The game is supposed to relax and entertain, not manipulate.

8.Fact is that GGG have invent new form of cheating but it will break the world due to the fact that this kind of manipulation is over controll and it will lead to unpredictable consequances.

Still I will respond to some of the above:

3. Sure not the world is just an illusion?

4. Verify for what? I never verify if all code inn Football Manager is correct and if I "get within what I should" when it comes to newgens.

5. Some games are online games, some are not. If this need and should? I don't care.

6. You are at least a true comedian even if you don't know it, but I hope you do. It is funny trolling if you do.

7. I enjoy and are quite relaxed - except when fighting in dangerous situations.

8. Read number six again! But you missed Illuminati
Dude has 200k shaper dps, uncaped resist and unsynergistic uniques that he doesnt need. Ive seen his character and yet he blames the game.

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