[3.24] Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow Deadeye (Or Tornado Shot) - 400%+ MS, League Start Viable!

Hi is there any reason why I am not able to use Berserk on this build, i tried checking if it was something related to warlords etc, or mana reservation, but doesn't seem to be an issue.
I am confused by the body Armour link in this build. Looking at the POB I can't tell which support gems link with which skills. Could someone help out quick?
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ultratiem wrote:
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TheFabulousHunter wrote:
I've been following the build and the clear speed is amazing, but I'm not sure how to progress from this point on. My survivability has been really low but my armor pieces seem fine, would appreciate some pointers on what to get. I've got around 300c saved atm, Thanks.


None I’m afraid. This build is just not viable for end game this patch. I’ve tried everything. I haven’t built a ranger this armoured ever and I still get blown up every dozen or so maps… to something.

4.3k life pool
6.5k armour
30k evasion
43k eHP

77% on all else resists
56% chaos resist

Immune to stun, corrupted blood, bleed, shock, freeze.

Steelskin, 3 endurance charges. And a slew of other damage mitigation. Still, get blown up.

GGG balance team literally did nothing this patch.

Also 300c lol. A level 4 Enlighten trades for 40div lmao. Your 300c won’t even get you a respectable ring for this build.


Yeah I'm just looking for some pointers on what to work on first
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yankuch wrote:
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Laskolnyk wrote:
Hi,

I have to tell that I have a moment of consideration at stage of crit low budget, but now (medium budget + cluster jewels) is much better.
But though I have a few questions:

- Is there any particular reason why we are not using blood rage? 20% extra AS seems really nice, expecially there is a room for this.

- Do we get some considerable advantage from leveled Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice or it is better to keep it on lvl 1 to reduce life cost to minimum?

- I am thinking abour priority of getting massive thread of hope, since it is not particularly cheap (60divs :f). Right now I have almost 1200 dps bow (but without additional arrows) and chaos res about 0. Will be better to saving for jewel or upgrading rest of gear?

Merry Christmas


Merry Christmas! holy, thread of hope is already 60 div? definitely prioritize the rest of the gear first


Thank you for your answer, however since it was going up literally from hour to hour, I bought one for 85divs hoping it will help maybe a little bit (plus make easier gearing in future), but actually build felt worse after respec :( So I sold it few hours later (earning few divs in the process, becasue prices of this jewel goes nuts) and bought better bow instead.
However I have another question, about Wind Dancer. Since I am using Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice so I am always been hit recently, is it a point of using this skill?
Last edited by Laskolnyk#4156 on Jan 2, 2024, 2:44:36 PM
It is possible to play with Cluster jewels without the Massive Thread of Hope ?
Do someone have a passive tree to share ?
Thank you !
Hi, great build. Really enjoying it for this season. I have pretty decent dps, but I'm trying to figure out what to spend on the next upgrade. Have 40+ divs to spend. Any advice welcome! Thanks

My gear:


For jewels im running lethal pride, large, med, Unnatural Instinct and That Which
Last edited by Svartvingad#3614 on Jan 3, 2024, 10:42:43 AM
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ANNAVALILA wrote:
Hi is there any reason why I am not able to use Berserk on this build, i tried checking if it was something related to warlords etc, or mana reservation, but doesn't seem to be an issue.



Can do it like this maybe:

1. Warlords mark (Cursed enemies grant 20 rage over 1 second when stunned)

2. Tincture (Damaging hits always stun enemies that are on full life)

3. Make sure to not freeze enemies since they cant be stunned. (Galesight)
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ultratiem wrote:
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TheFabulousHunter wrote:
I've been following the build and the clear speed is amazing, but I'm not sure how to progress from this point on. My survivability has been really low but my armor pieces seem fine, would appreciate some pointers on what to get. I've got around 300c saved atm, Thanks.


None I’m afraid. This build is just not viable for end game this patch. I’ve tried everything. I haven’t built a ranger this armoured ever and I still get blown up every dozen or so maps… to something.

4.3k life pool
6.5k armour
30k evasion
43k eHP

77% on all else resists
56% chaos resist

Immune to stun, corrupted blood, bleed, shock, freeze.

Steelskin, 3 endurance charges. And a slew of other damage mitigation. Still, get blown up.

GGG balance team literally did nothing this patch.

Also 300c lol. A level 4 Enlighten trades for 40div lmao. Your 300c won’t even get you a respectable ring for this build.


I hit level 97 with arctic armour and suppression as defensive layers. My total build cost was about 8 divines, and I only upgraded the build further (HH, switching to phys convert) after farming ~1.5 mirrors.

I went 97>100 running 8 mod T16s with legion/deli/beyond - noting this was done with HH.

Its definitely end game viable, you just need to not follow this guide.

Giving up freeze/chill, your best defensive layer and sniper's mark, an absolutely busted mechanic for both clear and single target damage is moronic. The warlord mark tech is complete garbage for 99% of players and only becomes useful when you already have enough damage and clear to properly take advantage of the extra movement speed.

It doesn't surprise me seeing so many people struggle, they aren't really playing a TS build.

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dan3211 wrote:
Thanks for the build. I have been playing Necro for such a long time and this is a welcome change. I am level 97 and not sure if I have done something wrong. The damage does not seem to be there at this time against bosses, everything else melts fast. Any advice would be appreciated. https://pobb.in/MrFZYxYCHXyI



-Remove warlords mark.
-Get level 21 sniper's mark
-remove secrets of suffering
-your CWDT is level 20 so it only triggers after taking 3272 damage. You have 3391 life. do you see a problem?
-craft your flasks
-why do you have a granite flask?
-you are not suppress capped
-get a better bow. you can find bows from as cheap as 5-7 div that will give you 25-30% more DPS (even assuming that all your arrows hit the target). Search 1k+ edps with 6.5%+ crit chance and count 1: local AS OR local crit strike chance and count 1: empty suffix crafted suffix.

This is the one I used which costs ~8-12 div and would not consider upgrading for anything less than a mirror bow.

Spine Bow
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Critical Strike Chance: 8.51%
Attacks per Second: 1.58
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+27 to Strength and Intelligence
Adds 175 to 309 Fire Damage
Adds 123 to 208 Cold Damage
Adds 26 to 481 Lightning Damage
31% increased Critical Strike Chance
44% increased Projectile Speed
13% increased Attack Speed (crafted)


-get an amulet? yours is almost min roll, a near top roll one costs a couple of chaos
-Your helmet could be a lot better. You don't seem to need the accuracy, so its practically a 3 mod item including the fracture. If you can essence until you get a decent third suffix or nice life roll, you might be able to craft phys taken as fire or something else on prefix. Pair this with an upgraded watchers eye with grace evade + purity of elements phys taken as, and you start to better mitigate physical damage too.
-action speed implicit on boot
-your that which was taken jewel is 1 mod. You should be able to grab a 2 mod one for a handful of divines that will give you an extra 5-6% more DPS.
-lethal pride can be upgraded. I haven't checked prices, but if 3 x DD is out of your budget, grab another one with 2 x DD + intimidate + phys taken as fire which should be dirt cheap.

Hi guys, been having fun with the build so far but I seem to be getting stuck in high red maps. T16s don't feel comfortable to farm and I'm not sure what I can replace to fix that. All the upgrades I'm finding are like 100div each (headhunter, massive thread, +2 proj bow, etc)...my budget is about 30. Surely there is a middle ground between "can't do T16s" and "100div per item" that I'm missing. Advice?

https://pobb.in/_yHHGWBBy4_U
Last edited by JohnTheGreen#1840 on Jan 4, 2024, 5:53:48 PM
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JohnTheGreen wrote:
Hi guys, been having fun with the build so far but I seem to be getting stuck in high red maps. T16s don't feel comfortable to farm and I'm not sure what I can replace to fix that. All the upgrades I'm finding are like 100div each (headhunter, massive thread, +2 proj bow, etc)...my budget is about 30. Surely there is a middle ground between "can't do T16s" and "100div per item" that I'm missing. Advice?

https://pobb.in/_yHHGWBBy4_U


this is one of the worst TS builds out there

so..you run warlord's mark (lmao), remove freeze/chill and then use pierce and don't take ricochet. do you not want to play a good build?

And there are ton of upgrades you can make without spending much. Large clusters and mediums are both cheap. You don't have a lethal pride (or brutal restraint), watchers eye or that which was taken jewel which have a single digit divine cost and provide a significant upgrade.

4L ballistas is comical, whats the point?

You could also get corrupted gloves and easily find upgrades for your mediocre boots, quiver and helmet. Two of your charms are garbage. You haven't rolled any of your flasks, don't have any awakened or transfigured gems and have rolled 1 implicit across your boots and helmet combined.

Even my league start semi-MF (1 x ventor's, goldwyrm and bisco's at that point) had double your DPS, and +100% MS and more than double your phys EHP.

Have you actually seen your build? How can you look at some of the crap you have equipped and think yeah, the next upgrade is 100 divine?

You also tick a bunch of crap in your config (e.g. always full life - so you aren't even suppress capped, enemy always full life) and onslaught (with only 10% on kill which means its down when you actually need it for DPS).

If you actually do have 30 divines, speak to the vendor in your hideout and sell everything that isn't your chest, amulet and dying sun. Then go and buy rings, boots, helmet for 1 div/less a piece, buy corrupted gloves and belt (or use a stygian vise), spend 5-7 divine on a proper bow (spine/ivory base), 1-2 divine on a quiver, roll your flasks. Spend 2 div on a large cluster and craft or buy the mediums which are basically free. Then buy a lethal pride with 2 x DD and intimidate, a watcher's eye with 1-2 useful mods (precision crit multi + purity of elements damage taken as element should cost less than 10 div) and buy a That Which Was Taken Jewel with any combination of good mods.

edit: and then consider fixing your tree, ya know, if you want to play TS?
Last edited by BrettLee#6388 on Jan 5, 2024, 2:33:55 AM

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