Following up on Recent Feedback

It's clear 3.19 is dead to me, and these post give me less and less hope the DEVs can recognise that FUN is a good thing.

The game keeps getting worst, yet Diablo 4 is still a year away :(

Let's hope Last Epoch multiplayer is good.
Just quit beating around the bush and delete harvest. Stop acting like we're stupid or something. Harvest has always been tradable, even before this league.

It's a joke that you're pushing this as the poor excuse why you keep nerfing harvest. Just remove it from the game and admit it had to be done because it doesn't fit the awful vision you have in mind for the game.

I knew when you guys said you were going to add QoL to Harvest to make trading crafts on discord not necessary, you were going to "Monkey's Paw" the league mechanic.

I guess let's not mention how you failed to detail that in the patch notes, too. That you deleted MANY USEFUL crafts from harvest because they were "filler."

If these changes all fit "The Vision" what part of the "Vision" is supposed to be the fun part? You're ruining loot, mega juicing, the only reasonably accessible crafting method, making every rare/magic pack of mobs a boss-fight or a kite-fest...

Not to mention how absolutely horrid build variety is now with the difficulty of Archnemesis and Harvest being absolutely destroyed beyond reason.

Are we just supposed to kill hundreds of thousands of mobs for a CHANCE to get a big loot drop like we're gambling at a casino? That's complete garbage game design. Even when we do win the lottery what do we get? A CHANCE of getting good stuff because if it rolls drought-bringer on top of that we get a steaming pile of shit.

I guess let's also not mention how by swapping the exalt to divine orbs, you basically killed the usefulness of stuff like exalt div cards, exalt shards. Which includes the vendor recipe AND harbinger/anything else that drops ex shards.

Also, finally, what about Lake of Kalandra? The rewards you get are abysmal for the INSANE difficulty. What a joke of a league mechanic.

I really appreciate you guys putting in the effort to fix things, but it never ceases to amaze me how shockingly out of touch you are with the game.
Just remove the 3.19 changes nobody likes this stuff.
I am really disappointed by this post, and especially the Harvest comments. These changes are terrible, nobody wanted this!

When we said we wanted Harvest crafts to be trade-able, we were talking about the useful crafts (the ones you removed altogether that is). Unlike other people, I don't mind so much the removal of prefix/suffix (I still think it's a terrible idea and would vote 50 times to have it back) since this is indeed bypass-able by Eldritch currency, but the way you butchered the augments and "more likely"/"less likely" is the really terrible part imo. I think your perception is broken, crafts still have a cost and in order to craft a good item you'd still need to either farm tons of harvests or have a lot of currency. One craft doesn't make an item god-tier. Even if you put back all the harvest crafts, it will still be expensive to craft T1 items.

Either way, given the situation, I'd rather have lifeforce be untrade-able and the old crafts back. Harvest has suffered enough - you guys pretend like this is ultra OP but it hasn't been that way in a long time.

The only thing Harvest does is that it does allow you to eventually make your endgame item. Eventually. And at a high cost. This is something that SHOULD be possible in the game - the fact that you want to make it next to impossible is just ridiculous. If I can't craft my perfect item, what reason is there for me to stay in the game after I've finished all endgame content? Absolutely none. Especially since you now killed map juicing too.

I'm reading through your post, and I'm honestly seeing absolutely nothing that would give me hope for future leagues. You make minor tweaks here and there, but this is not enough and not what the majority of players want. You fail to understand that tweaking unfun content like Archnemesis, while removing the content that WAS fun, is never going to work.

I've already played so little this league, I haven't even reached lvl 90. I have very little desire to play further, and I definitely won't be back next league if you keep at this. Neither will my friends (most of whom already quit this league like a week ago). If this is what you want to do with what used to be an amazing game, that's fine, it's your decision. But it will kill your playerbase, and eventually your game. If this is what POE2 looks like, I doubt it will even return its investment.
Last edited by Felix44#4475 on Sep 2, 2022, 4:08:57 AM
As i wrote previously, i wont spend any dime on POE anymore and so will do my friends, unless real change happens, not "fixes" for a problem that could've been solved way before it happened by simply thinking throuhgly before deploying any patches/improvements, unless what you've been doing so far reflects the majestic "VISION".
You understand that the few people left playing LoK are doing so out of boredome, right? Do you think covering us in currency/uniques/rares will do the trick to bring ppl back ? it wont.
The game is fun still, but way less fun that it was one league ago, or the previous before that, and it gets less fun league after league; but probably thats just me, i guess, glued to the past, to the vaal spark era, mega aoe cyclone, vaal power siphon 1 man punch, thor rainbownuke, explody cold bv, self curse hh + zerphis, aww the good old times.
Yes i get it, we can still zoom zoom, we can still 1 shot bosses, we can still farm like crazy and having fun in the meanwhile, and we can still "craft"ish somehow.
But dont we all love POE and have fun playing it cause of its unique playstyle ? crazy builds ? and crafting giga powerups (way more fun with old harvest), even though boring running atoll for days in order to do so.

What im trying to say is, the more time passes the more changes you do, the more things you remove from us, less fun it gets, and i/we are afraid it will get to the point of not caring anymore about POE, like we do right now;

If we get angry, rage, get disappointed, its cause we love the game, not the contrary.
Are you sure that the "VISION" you're having for POE is the right "VISION" ?


Playing since piety's runs and having fun still.
I hope POE2 will fix many of the problems we have
Please remove magic find from gear entirely. It is a very dated system. We already have a perfect risk & reward system with map mods and atlas skills. Push the difficulty and get rewarded more > magic find cull.
'Also mentioned in our last post was that monsters that can't drop items shouldn't have large numbers of Archnemesis mods and will be capped at two mods. This change has happened internally and will be deployed in an upcoming patch'

^That includes Blight right?

Also i would realy like for harvest to regain some of its crafting potential and just make it un-tradeable.
Last edited by Rekill#3893 on Sep 2, 2022, 4:04:26 AM
I personally think that at the very least the reforge more likely needs to come back its so important to harvest and without them it feels really bad I can live with at least those
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I personally think that at the very least the reforge more likely needs to come back its so important to harvest and without them it feels really bad I can live with at least those

Last edited by ille216#6702 on Sep 2, 2022, 4:09:15 AM
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