Path of Exile 3.16 Balance - Part 3 - Auras, Curses and Elemental Damage Over Time

the sad part is this shows how the community filled with jealousy

i hate aurabots/aurastackers btw i dont play them but i dont care about other players if they having fun with their builds


this the first time i see community requesting a nerf and the reason imo is completely jealousy


oh that guy better then me please ggg nerf him :D


what a dumb mindset

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freud19821215 wrote:

I think the game has reached a point where it's too complicated for devs to make any meaningful balance change without any collateral damage.

It's just too fking complicated, too many useless skill gems/unique gears/weird mechanics … , and a lot of new skill gems/unique gears/weird mechanics are being added into the already bloated game every league, what's the point if almost nobody uses them or buff something so GGG can nerf it next league, I can't believe it that after so many years GGG now start to make core character mechanic change.

That being said experienced players will always find a way to overcome any nerf, I bet they have much better knowledge about the game than GGG devs after playing the game for so many years. It's time for GGG to do subtraction not addition to the game, otherwise the nerf cycle will never end and the game will come to an dead-end.

I have to ask: You realize that this cycle is going on for a long-time and is the sole reason the game is still going? This cycle is the reason that people come back to PoE every 3 months but do not so (or in much smaller numbers) for D3 - or a multitude of other multiplayer-titles that have been developed in the last 10 years and have already been disbanded again because it simply is not feasible to keep everything in the game the same as it was at the start while keeping it fresh. That does not work, it never will.

Also: This is by far not the first and won't be the last "core character mechanic" change.

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xlKhaled wrote:

this the first time i see community requesting a nerf and the reason imo is completely jealousy

No? Aurabots are controlling the market, which is not good.

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groink19 wrote:

By the way, I don't like the change of EO. I think the current EO is stupid and needs to be changed, but the new one seems to further boost crit builds and further beat down non-crit builds. Non-crit selfcast needs some love i think. I don't know if the ailment stuff is enough.

You have to cast your main spell enough in 8 seconds to trigger it, that means you have to crit once. Given 2 casts per second (which I think it a really fair point and most builds should have more) that means 16 casts to crit once. That requires a 6.25% crit-chance on average. Of course I know, average is not reliable and with just 6.25% (which is close to or even below what most spells have as a base-chance) you will have phases without crits. But that still means you just need moderate investment to keep it up most of the time.

What really got hurt is Controlled Destruction. I really don't see a reason with most skills to use that, it's basically relegated to be used with Ignite (maybe, quite a bit crit-ignite stuff on the tree now) or Cold-Dot.

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groink19 wrote:

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xlKhaled wrote:

this the first time i see community requesting a nerf and the reason imo is completely jealousy

No? Aurabots are controlling the market, which is not good.

wrong

if you check the market you will see 2 types who control the market

1. actual bots
2. flippers

No EE or EO is sad :( hope the dmg buffs justify that...

If this keeps up, I'm quitting.....

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Serdoa wrote:

What really got hurt is Controlled Destruction. I really don't see a reason with most skills to use that, it's basically relegated to be used with Ignite (maybe, quite a bit crit-ignite stuff on the tree now) or Cold-Dot.

If EO stays at 40 % more, CD is still better with 44 %. I think it boils down to either use your sixth socket for CD or invest passives/affixes into some crit.

But I agree with you that getting some kind of crit is more efficient, but for builds who dont have access to EO (I cant think of any build here except physical spells) it might still be worthwhile.

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groink19 wrote:

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Prapic wrote:

What I'm interested in is what exactly are you planning to do about the fact that around two weeks into the league my hand starts hurting when even thinking about this game...

Dude, how much do you play this game? Lmao

But yes, league mechanics with many chests and mechanic specific currency dropping in huge seperate numbers is not the way to go. But Chris agrees with this.

My interest in things never lasts long, but is intense. So I play a fuckton when the league starts and then generally quit three or four weeks in. I tried playing less at start and just spread it over a longer period of time, but it doesn't work. I just quit after three or four weeks, no matter the league, no matter the playstyle.

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xlKhaled wrote:

the sad part is this shows how the community filled with jealousy

i hate aurabots/aurastackers btw i dont play them but i dont care about other players if they having fun with their builds


this the first time i see community requesting a nerf and the reason imo is completely jealousy


oh that guy better then me please ggg nerf him :D


what a dumb mindset

Noone is jelaous of Aurabots. NOONE.

The reason people want them nerfed is because this game is focussed HEAVILY on trade. Its basicly more of a "wallstreet simulator" now than it is an arpg.
Aurabots were so bonkers to the point groups were farming The Feared in day 2 of the league ( hardest content available , with the highest returns ).

The market was spammed with feared drops ( shaper bases , synthesized items , elder bases / watcher's eye , bottled faith etc) and made mirrors for the partys abusing it. Its like if you put your money into some apple stock and then 5 billionaires come over and tell everyone that the market is closed for everyone except for them for 10 days while they can trade all they want. After 10 days your apple stock is suddenly worth 1/4 of what you invested , because a lot of people invested in apple stock and the 5 billionaires shorted the shit out of it.

If Aurabots wouldnt triviliaze content to the point where no matter how fast you are solo , you will NEVER be faster than 1 cursebot + 1 aurabot + 3 people with MF gear , noone would demand any kind of nerf.

I personally would like to feel that my time invested into the game is actually worth something. There should be no point in the game where content "it not worth it" except as a party , simply because you will LOSE money in doing it ( 3.14 feared rotas , where you actually lost money with each feared EXCEPT if you did it as a party and got 6x the returns of a solo player )