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Deadandlivin wrote:

Not sure, I started with gilded directly when I respecced to Blight yesterday. I've gotten 100 blighted maps so far ~40 maps.
Would have gotten more but I've also failed alot of Blights due to Delirium Mirrors and me just standing still too much during them and dying at times.


Ok, thanks, I'll try it later again. To make it clear, you don't mean "Maps with a Blight encounter", but maps with only Blight in it, right?

Otherwise the same with strongboxes in my maps...most of them drop crap, I only skilled them in order to get scarabs...but probably are the skill points wasted... Concerning the AG dying, isn't the simple solution, just to not open them, if they are close to a boss?
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Drathy1508 wrote:
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Deadandlivin wrote:

Not sure, I started with gilded directly when I respecced to Blight yesterday. I've gotten 100 blighted maps so far ~40 maps.
Would have gotten more but I've also failed alot of Blights due to Delirium Mirrors and me just standing still too much during them and dying at times.


Ok, thanks, I'll try it later again. To make it clear, you don't mean "Maps with a Blight encounter", but maps with only Blight in it, right?

Otherwise the same with strongboxes in my maps...most of them drop crap, I only skilled them in order to get scarabs...but probably are the skill points wasted... Concerning the AG dying, isn't the simple solution, just to not open them, if they are close to a boss?


I'm talking about normal maps with a Blight Encounter from a Gilded Blight Scarab. When running Toxic Sewers I get ~3 Blighted Maps(The 5 min things with 100 chests) per Toxic Sewers. I'll recorda as snippet of a mapping session and show you :-)

I think the easiest solution of them all is to specc out of Strongboxes and don't bother with them. I got baited into strongboxes this league cause everyone is doing them. But I'm not impressed. You pay 10 chaos permap and usually get nothing back.

Compare it to running Breach for example. If you run Breach with 1 Polished Scarab(1c) and a sextant(5 c for sextant for 4 maps) you usually walk out with breach loot for over 20 chaos per map or more. Breach Rings alone sell for 4 chaos per ring and you get several per Breach.
Last edited by Deadandlivin#2745 on Mar 15, 2022, 5:19:51 AM
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Deadandlivin wrote:

I'm talking about normal maps with a Blight Encounter from a Gilded Blight Scarab. When running Toxic Sewers I get ~3 Blighted Maps(The 5 min things with 100 chests) per Toxic Sewers. I'll recorda as snippet of a mapping session and show you :-)

I think the easiest solution of them all is to specc out of Strongboxes and don't bother with them. I got baited into strongboxes this league cause everyone is doing them. But I'm not impressed. You pay 10 chaos permap and usually get nothing back.

Compare it to running Breach for example. If you run Breach with 1 Polished Scarab(1c) and a sextant(5 c for sextant for 4 maps) you usually walk out with breach loot for over 20 chaos per map or more. Breach Rings alone sell for 4 chaos per ring and you get several per Breach.


Ahh, ok...that's even more strange...I only got 2 or 3 maps with a Blight encounter...during the whole league!!! But I'll check if I have that map later and then try it... Cool, a snippet would be great!

Yes, probably you are right, concerning strongboxes...I died already a lot, opening one and can't move...

I'll try breach, but I'm not lucky (or unexperienced) selling items...have a lot stuff that is (to my mind interesting), but nobody wants it... ;-)
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Drathy1508 wrote:
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Deadandlivin wrote:

I'm talking about normal maps with a Blight Encounter from a Gilded Blight Scarab. When running Toxic Sewers I get ~3 Blighted Maps(The 5 min things with 100 chests) per Toxic Sewers. I'll recorda as snippet of a mapping session and show you :-)

I think the easiest solution of them all is to specc out of Strongboxes and don't bother with them. I got baited into strongboxes this league cause everyone is doing them. But I'm not impressed. You pay 10 chaos permap and usually get nothing back.

Compare it to running Breach for example. If you run Breach with 1 Polished Scarab(1c) and a sextant(5 c for sextant for 4 maps) you usually walk out with breach loot for over 20 chaos per map or more. Breach Rings alone sell for 4 chaos per ring and you get several per Breach.


Ahh, ok...that's even more strange...I only got 2 or 3 maps with a Blight encounter...during the whole league!!! But I'll check if I have that map later and then try it... Cool, a snippet would be great!

Yes, probably you are right, concerning strongboxes...I died already a lot, opening one and can't move...

I'll try breach, but I'm not lucky (or unexperienced) selling items...have a lot stuff that is (to my mind interesting), but nobody wants it... ;-)


You want to make sure you're bulkselling things.
Do that on TFT (The Forbidden Trove) discord. It's a godsend for selling crap you don't want as long as you have bulk.

Also, if you're running Breach, make sure that you show Breach Rings on your filter. Ilvl83+ Breach Rings are 4 chaos each in bulk.
Last edited by Deadandlivin#2745 on Mar 15, 2022, 5:55:25 AM
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Deadandlivin wrote:

You want to make sure you're bulkselling things.
Do that on TFT (The Forbidden Trove) discord. It's a godsend for selling crap you don't want as long as you have bulk.

Also, if you're running Breach, make sure that you show Breach Rings on your filter. Ilvl83+ Breach Rings are 4 chaos each in bulk.


Ok, thanks for the hint...but to be honest, I never used discord... ;-) I think I focus on other things to make currency.

I have a few questions concerning your current gear/gems, because I try to adapt my gear/gems. Currently with Auls I run Skitterbots, Determination, Grace & Hatred:
1. Don't you use Determination any more, because it doesn't fit with "Ashes of the stars" and the mana reservation?
2. Isn't Determination mandatory because of Molten Shell?
3. Do you use Vitality instead, because it needs less reservation?
4. Doesn't "Assasins Mark" count as a curse or don't you have EW on your AGs gloves anymore?
5. What is the reason that you still use Victarios, and no shield with +2/+2 charges?
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Drathy1508 wrote:
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Deadandlivin wrote:

You want to make sure you're bulkselling things.
Do that on TFT (The Forbidden Trove) discord. It's a godsend for selling crap you don't want as long as you have bulk.

Also, if you're running Breach, make sure that you show Breach Rings on your filter. Ilvl83+ Breach Rings are 4 chaos each in bulk.


Ok, thanks for the hint...but to be honest, I never used discord... ;-) I think I focus on other things to make currency.

I have a few questions concerning your current gear/gems, because I try to adapt my gear/gems. Currently with Auls I run Skitterbots, Determination, Grace & Hatred:
1. Don't you use Determination any more, because it doesn't fit with "Ashes of the stars" and the mana reservation?
2. Isn't Determination mandatory because of Molten Shell?
3. Do you use Vitality instead, because it needs less reservation?
4. Doesn't "Assasins Mark" count as a curse or don't you have EW on your AGs gloves anymore?
5. What is the reason that you still use Victarios, and no shield with +2/+2 charges?


1. I still run Determination. On my current build I have it as a corruption on my Shield.
2. Not necessarily, but they synergise with eachother very well. I do run Determination though :)
3. I'm not running Vitality. I think you're lookingat my AFK blight setup because I'm afking my Blight maps right now.
To AFK blight you need regen and capped Chaos resistance. My flask setup should be telling whether I'm making or doing Blights.
4. Assassin's Mark counts as a curse.
My AG is running a 30% explodey and +1 curse chest. I made it for ~4 exalted orbs with an Awakened Orb. THat's why my AG is pretty expensive.
5. I just haven't bothered upgrading my Shield. I've got ~200 ex in Fossils/Fragments that I've farmed this week but almost no exalteds. Haven't bothered to sell my stuff.
For now, my shield works well. It gives Power charges when mapping and with Ashes of the Stars, my minions get Power Charges from Assassin's Mark too which means upgrading Victario's Charity isn't as important as it was before.
Determination as a corruption mod also saves 1 socket slot which is nice.

But yeah, I will be getting a Shield in the future. But right now I think I'll just save up for a Mageblood. Didn't get one last league and I want to try it out.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

1. I still run Determination. On my current build I have it as a corruption on my Shield.
2. Not necessarily, but they synergise with eachother very well. I do run Determination though :)
3. I'm not running Vitality. I think you're lookingat my AFK blight setup because I'm afking my Blight maps right now.
To AFK blight you need regen and capped Chaos resistance. My flask setup should be telling whether I'm making or doing Blights.
4. Assassin's Mark counts as a curse.
My AG is running a 30% explodey and +1 curse chest. I made it for ~4 exalted orbs with an Awakened Orb. THat's why my AG is pretty expensive.
5. I just haven't bothered upgrading my Shield. I've got ~200 ex in Fossils/Fragments that I've farmed this week but almost no exalteds. Haven't bothered to sell my stuff.
For now, my shield works well. It gives Power charges when mapping and with Ashes of the Stars, my minions get Power Charges from Assassin's Mark too which means upgrading Victario's Charity isn't as important as it was before.
Determination as a corruption mod also saves 1 socket slot which is nice.

But yeah, I will be getting a Shield in the future. But right now I think I'll just save up for a Mageblood. Didn't get one last league and I want to try it out.


Oh, ok, didn't see it on your shield...nice...and yes, probably it is your Blight setup.

Fingers crossed, that you get a mageblood...it's still extreme expensive... :-D

Last question, what do you think is the first, I should work on (see my character). Get a +3 Minion Helmet, a +2 Wand or switch to Ashes of the stars combined with getting Enduring Cry and update my skilltree?

I'm building The Hungery Loop parallel...and if it's done, I'll

Or should I focus on getting alternative quality gems? But I think, before I'll do that, I should get a +3 helmet and switch golems spectres and zombies to it...

Current Budget is ~ 6-7 Ex
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Drathy wrote:
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Deadandlivin wrote:

1. I still run Determination. On my current build I have it as a corruption on my Shield.
2. Not necessarily, but they synergise with eachother very well. I do run Determination though :)
3. I'm not running Vitality. I think you're lookingat my AFK blight setup because I'm afking my Blight maps right now.
To AFK blight you need regen and capped Chaos resistance. My flask setup should be telling whether I'm making or doing Blights.
4. Assassin's Mark counts as a curse.
My AG is running a 30% explodey and +1 curse chest. I made it for ~4 exalted orbs with an Awakened Orb. THat's why my AG is pretty expensive.
5. I just haven't bothered upgrading my Shield. I've got ~200 ex in Fossils/Fragments that I've farmed this week but almost no exalteds. Haven't bothered to sell my stuff.
For now, my shield works well. It gives Power charges when mapping and with Ashes of the Stars, my minions get Power Charges from Assassin's Mark too which means upgrading Victario's Charity isn't as important as it was before.
Determination as a corruption mod also saves 1 socket slot which is nice.

But yeah, I will be getting a Shield in the future. But right now I think I'll just save up for a Mageblood. Didn't get one last league and I want to try it out.


Oh, ok, didn't see it on your shield...nice...and yes, probably it is your Blight setup.

Fingers crossed, that you get a mageblood...it's still extreme expensive... :-D

Last question, what do you think is the first, I should work on (see my character). Get a +3 Minion Helmet, a +2 Wand or switch to Ashes of the stars combined with getting Enduring Cry and update my skilltree?

I'm building The Hungery Loop parallel...and if it's done, I'll

Or should I focus on getting alternative quality gems? But I think, before I'll do that, I should get a +3 helmet and switch golems spectres and zombies to it...

Current Budget is ~ 6-7 Ex


Yeah, farmed ~200 ex this weekend so shouldn't be too far off.
However, I'm actually experimenting with a new belt right now.
I'm testing running the Offering Belt and tripple offerings in my trigger wand.

Since we're running so much increased duration in the tree we can have permanent uptime on them all.

The downside is that I lose a crapton of resistances and I'm not resistance capped. However, I solve this with Divergent Spirit Offering that grants 80% all resistance to our minions with Ashes of the Stars. Since I'm running Mistress of Sacrifice I get 50% of it so 40% all res which caps out my resistances.

The downside however, is that we have to keep 100% uptime on our offerings which requires Desecrate. This is not a problem when mapping since there's corpses laying around everywhere. But you definitely gotta get used to casting desecrate during bosses et.c. to keep the offerings up. And if it falls of you get reduced to 40% resistances in alot of cases and get oneshot :D

What's the benefit of running this then? We get Chaos res, minions get 30% phys damage as extra chaos which is ~15% more dps and another layer of Defense with block. I'm running Rumis + Divergent Boneoffering with Glancing Blows for block cap.

So far it has been super smooth and you feel way tankier.

The hard part is balancing the sockets so I've sacced Enduring Cry and Assassin's Mark for now to make room for the extra Offerings.
I definitely want to get Assassin's Mark back though. Might have to get rid of Increased Duration support on my Molten Shell but I don't like that idea too much.

Your character is hidden so I can't see what you're using.
By the sounds of it, I would probably try and get a Ashes of the Stars first and try to play around with it. It's cheap so you can just try it out.

For big upgrades I would probably go for helm first (Assuming you're running a +1 wand with trigger). If you're running something like a Clayshaper, get a +2 wand before helm.
Oh, sorry, character should be visible now...

Really interesting experiment with the belt, sounds really great! I'm exited what the final result of it will be... :-)

Dumb question to the trigger: What spell with a 8 sec cooldown is the trigger of the wand? Somehow I never understood that... :-(


In the process of respecting to this build after finding chaos AW abit clunky. Rolled the above jewel earlier was curious if this would be superior to the 8 passive alternative or if I'm better off selling.

Havnt got access to pob for now unfortunately.
Last edited by facelessman122#1602 on Mar 16, 2022, 10:33:52 AM

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