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carnielfz wrote:

Is there any way to make the build a little more "tank" even if I do the rotation well I still die in certain situations, maybe it's because I'm not good yet, ¿maybe using Bone offering? Or is there another way, it would be quite a difference in terms of clear speed (I think).

The easiest way to tank up is to run an Auls uprising(Hatred) to fit Vaal Grace in your gloves and get spell block cap.

To get Block Cap you'll run Bone Offering, Tempest Shield, Rumis Concoction, Mystic Bulwark and Sanctuary in the tree.

This requires you to get a 3-point small cluster jewel with reduced mana reservation on Grace and 25% increased effect.

This PoB is from 3.16 but outlines the different setup pretty well:
https://pastebin.com/SeSJUQ1f

I just lost my 10 ex Animate Guardian to strongboxes which feels kinda bad.

Just letting this out there as a warning to all minion builds:

Do NOT specc into strongboxes in your Atlas tree
Strongboxes runs a chance of killing your Animate Guardian and it doesn't matter how tanky he is. During the right circumstances he will kill most Guardians in this game. (Mine had 89k HP and 87% max elemental resistance)

So how did he die?
I was doing a Promenade map and right after I killed the map boss I clicked on a Strongbox next to the boss. The strongbox had the Detonate Dead mod which does damage based on corpse HP. So it detonated the boss who had alot of HP and oneshot all my minions. Not much I could do.

So I advice everyone to specc out of strongboxes if you're running it.
The mechanic isn't very rewardinganyway imo.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I just lost my 10 ex Animate Guardian to strongboxes which feels kinda bad.

Just letting this out there as a warning to all minion builds:

Do NOT specc into strongboxes in your Atlas tree
Strongboxes runs a chance of killing your Animate Guardian and it doesn't matter how tanky he is. During the right circumstances he will kill most Guardians in this game. (Mine had 89k HP and 87% max elemental resistance)

So how did he die?
I was doing a Promenade map and right after I killed the map boss I clicked on a Strongbox next to the boss. The strongbox had the Detonate Dead mod which does damage based on corpse HP. So it detonated the boss who had alot of HP and oneshot all my minions. Not much I could do.

So I advice everyone to specc out of strongboxes if you're running it.
The mechanic isn't very rewardinganyway imo.

Just last night I took out my strongboxes to test blight, thanks for letting us know!

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carnielfz wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I just lost my 10 ex Animate Guardian to strongboxes which feels kinda bad.

Just letting this out there as a warning to all minion builds:

Do NOT specc into strongboxes in your Atlas tree
Strongboxes runs a chance of killing your Animate Guardian and it doesn't matter how tanky he is. During the right circumstances he will kill most Guardians in this game. (Mine had 89k HP and 87% max elemental resistance)

So how did he die?
I was doing a Promenade map and right after I killed the map boss I clicked on a Strongbox next to the boss. The strongbox had the Detonate Dead mod which does damage based on corpse HP. So it detonated the boss who had alot of HP and oneshot all my minions. Not much I could do.

So I advice everyone to specc out of strongboxes if you're running it.
The mechanic isn't very rewardinganyway imo.

Just last night I took out my strongboxes to test blight, thanks for letting us know!

I'm doing Blight right now. It's ansolutely stupid.

I got all the Blight nodes running Toxic Sewers with Gilded Blight scarabs.
You get like ~3 Blighted Maps on average per map. I had a map where I dropped 11 Blighted maps.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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carnielfz wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I just lost my 10 ex Animate Guardian to strongboxes which feels kinda bad.

Just letting this out there as a warning to all minion builds:

Do NOT specc into strongboxes in your Atlas tree
Strongboxes runs a chance of killing your Animate Guardian and it doesn't matter how tanky he is. During the right circumstances he will kill most Guardians in this game. (Mine had 89k HP and 87% max elemental resistance)

So how did he die?
I was doing a Promenade map and right after I killed the map boss I clicked on a Strongbox next to the boss. The strongbox had the Detonate Dead mod which does damage based on corpse HP. So it detonated the boss who had alot of HP and oneshot all my minions. Not much I could do.

So I advice everyone to specc out of strongboxes if you're running it.
The mechanic isn't very rewardinganyway imo.

Just last night I took out my strongboxes to test blight, thanks for letting us know!

I'm doing Blight right now. It's ansolutely stupid.

I got all the Blight nodes running Toxic Sewers with Gilded Blight scarabs.
You get like ~3 Blighted Maps on average per map. I had a map where I dropped 11 Blighted maps.

Right now I have my atlas skill tree like this, I'm thinking of changing a few more things, but at the moment everything is quite profitable for me.
These days that I was testing Strongbox, it felt more like farming alteration, I didn't get anything good.

How do you guyz have Primal Crushclaw? I have Phantasmal Desecrate but i can't spawn them anyway and nobody seems to have them in global chat.

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Hyeonchung wrote:

How do you guyz have Primal Crushclaw? I have Phantasmal Desecrate but i can't spawn them anyway and nobody seems to have them in global chat.

@ZCarn in-game I'll give it to you

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I'm doing Blight right now. It's ansolutely stupid.

I got all the Blight nodes running Toxic Sewers with Gilded Blight scarabs.
You get like ~3 Blighted Maps on average per map. I had a map where I dropped 11 Blighted maps.

Hmm...what am I doing wrong? I also got all Blight nodes, but I don't run a special map...I would say, I get every 2 oder 3 Maps one Blight map... Is the Gilded Scarab the reason or the special map?

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Right now I have my atlas skill tree like this, I'm thinking of changing a few more things, but at the moment everything is quite profitable for me.
These days that I was testing Strongbox, it felt more like farming alteration, I didn't get anything good.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-atlas-skill-tree/AAAABgAAhAMfCD8J3Aq-C3EM4A7iD2MRiRXAF5AXyxjEG04ddB84H2Yf9iFrJf4m5yjQKoQq0TADMDUz5DmOPl9BX0GMQhNCJUJ3QyNDS0fPSABIIkpfUDlRglfjWcxb2VvzXcdeKmIpY7VmymfpaFJp1W19bf1uKnbCdyx4hHnDewp8z3_cgmmCioPdhpiH6Yhtj9SRTZGMkiydXp2HnbGeSaBdobWi3qOFpSSlrqq5rdau6q_Bsma0hrX9tui3K7nUuyq8qLzcvmfC_8X-xjPG0Mh-yaHOg86R0ErQotCp1LnVZti12bjZ59q93E3gFuGL43zlj-Xs55bpH-qN7aDxS_V3-jD62v0d_cn90QAA

I've done some serious experimenting with one tree so far.
I wanted to tes tmy own tree with my favorite league mechanics and tried out running Breach + Legion + metamorph + Simulacrum + Expedition on Strand.

These were the results of a 20 map test:


Now I've been trying some of the "base" things ppl tell everyone to get on their map, mainly being Essences and Strongboxes.
I think essences are pretty good, mostly due to Remnants of Corruption being 1 chaos. So I just throw a remnant on literally every Essence I find pretty much. Essences feel decent so far.

But damn, strongboxes is a MASSIVE letdown. I have no clue why people run them. You're spending 10chaos each map on Strongboxes and mostly get nothing back in return. 80% of strongboxes I open shoot blanks and are completely hidden by my filter. Sometimes you get a corrupted 6-link, Operatives box or divinations box et.c. But it's too rare and in the end I was losing money doing my strongbox testing. My Animate Guardian dying was the acing on the cake and I'm never touching strongboxes again. Not to mention that I die to strongboxes all the time because I'm greedy and try to instantly pick up loot those times they actually drop something.

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Drathy1508 wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I'm doing Blight right now. It's ansolutely stupid.

I got all the Blight nodes running Toxic Sewers with Gilded Blight scarabs.
You get like ~3 Blighted Maps on average per map. I had a map where I dropped 11 Blighted maps.

Hmm...what am I doing wrong? I also got all Blight nodes, but I don't run a special map...I would say, I get every 2 oder 3 Maps one Blight map... Is the Gilded Scarab the reason or the special map?

Not sure, I started with gilded directly when I respecced to Blight yesterday. I've gotten 100 blighted maps so far ~40 maps.
Would have gotten more but I've also failed alot of Blights due to Delirium Mirrors and me just standing still too much during them and dying at times.

You definitely want to run maps with tight corridors like Toxic Sewers.
it will exponentially increase how many Blighted Maps you get.