Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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Silence4tw wrote:

lets be honest here, its a gentleman move by chris. Blizzard pass over lots of their playerbase by the immortal desaster and now, chris the gentleman that he is, gives it all back in the possible D4 release year. its crazy how fast u moved from the voice of the playerbase to 100% disconnected from it. i guess the epic quote from that blizzcon youtube video still stayed until today: no king rules forever. you had a good run it was nice to be part of it, thx for all the good memorys and see you all in D4.

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Giammafix wrote:

"Why would I use a regular Exalted/Divine/Annul Orb when I can get one through Harvest that has a deterministic result?"

Because EVERY SINGLE TIME I used one of those damn Annul orb I bricked my items...didn't even take 3 annuls, just every first one I used on some good item with a rare mod, had to choose THAT mod among the other 4...
that doesn't feel good at all.
The nerf would be "good" if you could allow people to store the craft in some orb (like Einhar's bestiary orb) and make harvest crafting and trading safer and integrated in game.
At that point, nerfs would make more sense.

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Appletree2k wrote:

I didn't see any overpowered amount of crafting options myself this league. But maybe 80 hours per week is the level GGG is optimizing towards?

That's my honest concern.
They always said they spent thousands of hours on diablo 2, they probably were that kind of player, all or most of the staff. Maybe it's an unavoidable bias: a game made by nerds for nerds (by no mean I want to sound offensive and I apologize if I do).

At the same time they DO have access to game internals, they can generate any kind of statistics and run in depth analysis on them. Is the average player the 80 hours per week dude? Maybe it is.
I know I'm not and yesterday I "finished" (read: call it done and move on) my first good harvest item: all tier 1-3 mods on a ghastly eye. That's my personal achievement in one year of POE, everything else was grinding and buying from crafters. Me and my buddy will try to pool whatever is left of harvest and try to make at least something of it before it's obliterated (cit. Sirus).

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Armaged00m wrote:

real issue with harvest is TFT. Without TFT it would be pretty much balanced and it would take so much time to craft GG item but people who play a lot would deserve to get it sooner or later like they do in hardcore for example without trading harvest crafts.

While with TFT in Softcore players are just buying crafts from others and making GG items easily within few hours in some cases and thats just stupid for grindy game like this.

I am also casual player and this was my first league but I finished all content within a month so I can see why harvest is OP , its basically too easy for anyone to craft gear they want if u spend some time in TFT discord.
But anyway u can still finish all content without much issues without gg gear and u will still be able to use harvest next league after nerf for some solid crafts while GG gear will be harder to craft as it should be the case for tryhard gamers. If you want everything given to u then just go to Diablo I guess or some other dogshit ARPG game where u can get OP gear within a week. PoE was never like that and now I can see why its so many levels above others.

Basically I can't wait to start next league without those few stupidly OP crafts so I can actually work on my gear and earn it with time instead to just trade crafts for GG items all day long. PoE devs know what they are doing , otherwise this game would not be on top. Even if they lose some casuals because of this harvest nerf , it is still for the good of the game and its future which will seperate it from other ARPGs which are basically easy mode compared to PoE, so if u want easy ARPG to craft GG items then go somewhere else I guess.