[3.13] Archmage Blade Vortex Hierophant | 20k EHP 40m DPS | Depth 2000 Delve Tank

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Jadame wrote:
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StraideN1 wrote:
I am stupid or what? Just ended levelling, bought all the items, but can't realise what's wrong. I cast 2 times - then not enough mana, after that i cast 2 times again and then not enough mana.

Most likely vortex without blood magic pushing your indigon mana spent over 100% and breaking everything.

lol, really, thanks a lot! Is it right that I should ideally have 1800 mana cost of blade vortex on use? So what affects the damage done, mana pool? And 1 more question: author has no blood magic in his vortex links, he's build working good without it because of mana pool?
What do you do on the plume variant if you die on Maven or similar, where you struggle to set the single blade back up?
Maven is very painful to re-enter. I asked GGG why maven fights dont have a safe staging area like every other endgame boss encounter in the game. They just said, feedback has been noted.
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StraideN1 wrote:
I am stupid or what? Just ended levelling, bought all the items, but can't realise what's wrong. I cast 2 times - then not enough mana, after that i cast 2 times again and then not enough mana. tried indigon with 50 and 60 inc. mana cost, no changes. And it's also not because of bad timing, just some mechanics work wrong. https://pastebin.com/SKzB2a8U that's my current char. Can someone explain me what's wrong?
P.S. yeah, i know about wrong items, like a rare ring instead of Essence worm, i just need a 80 lvl to star wear a new boots to have good reses with Essence worm.

If youre sure your timing isnt wrong id guess Vortex is too high for the Mana you have
Also, what are the ideal supports for the plume variant? I'm rocking with BV-Archmage-Arcane Surge-Unleash-Controlled Destruction-Divergent Spell Echo. Is there a more optimal link setup?
So I did lots of testing (mostly related to survivability) and it's turns out that Recover #% ES on Kill amazing for clearing highly juiced maps. I was able to complete T18 100% Delirious map with 91% recovery reduction (probably would fail without it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omsfiOjI1V8

Also for both bossing and mapping Enfeeble + Conductivity are super nice. We don't have any problems with damage and maven phase takes literally couple seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFTE38E2VlM (yeah, I know that I'm dumb and forgot to enable clarity in this fight, and also - yeah most of the time I'm failing last memory game)

My POB if someone interested https://pastebin.com/e9LmnhkJ (buffs and flasks are disabled, I prefer more realistic calculation)

P.S. Also I was able to craft double T0 chest :)
Last edited by skiminok1989 on Feb 11, 2021, 1:35:11 AM
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SenorHabanero wrote:
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StraideN1 wrote:
I am stupid or what? Just ended levelling, bought all the items, but can't realise what's wrong. I cast 2 times - then not enough mana, after that i cast 2 times again and then not enough mana. tried indigon with 50 and 60 inc. mana cost, no changes. And it's also not because of bad timing, just some mechanics work wrong. https://pastebin.com/SKzB2a8U that's my current char. Can someone explain me what's wrong?
P.S. yeah, i know about wrong items, like a rare ring instead of Essence worm, i just need a 80 lvl to star wear a new boots to have good reses with Essence worm.

If you're sure your timing isnt wrong id guess Vortex is too high for the Mana you have

I started to use Blood Magic with Vortex. Bu now there's a new problem. I cast 1st time(5 blades, right?), if that's right i have the next situation: when I cast the 1st time i have good dps(with 5 blades), when i cast second time and have 10 blades, my dps drops to minimum, then i cast again and have a good dps, and then minimum dps...
2nd Problem is that I always have 5 blades, i mean when i cast 2nd time previous blades disappear after 1 sec(that's logical, cause i start with 5 blades, thaen i start to cast another 5 blades only after 4 seconds, when the previous 5 blades are going to disappear. In other words: shouldn't I start with 10 blades? But it will F*ck my mana cost. Maybe the problem with duration is because of skill effect duration, which i didn't have yet?
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skiminok1989 wrote:
So I did lots of testing (mostly related to survivability) and it's turns out that Recover #% ES on Kill amazing for clearing highly juiced maps. I was able to complete T18 100% Delirious map with 91% recovery reduction (probably would fail without it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omsfiOjI1V8

Also for both bossing and mapping Enfeeble + Conductivity are super nice. We don't have any problems with damage and maven phase takes literally couple seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFTE38E2VlM (yeah, I know that I'm dumb and forgot to enable clarity in this fight, and also - yeah most of the time I'm failing last memory game)

My POB if someone interested https://pastebin.com/e9LmnhkJ (buffs and flasks are disabled, I prefer more realistic calculation)

P.S. Also I was able to craft double T0 chest :)


Nice chest again, congratulation!

I'm more DPS guy and motto is killing them before they kill you hehe.

Here is my video of Maven A9, I messed up in the last phase and dealt 0 DPS for 4s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc0vpwPa-gs
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StraideN1 wrote:

I started to use Blood Magic with Vortex. Bu now there's a new problem. I cast 1st time(5 blades, right?), if that's right i have the next situation: when I cast the 1st time i have good dps(with 5 blades), when i cast second time and have 10 blades, my dps drops to minimum, then i cast again and have a good dps, and then minimum dps...
2nd Problem is that I always have 5 blades, i mean when i cast 2nd time previous blades disappear after 1 sec(that's logical, cause i start with 5 blades, thaen i start to cast another 5 blades only after 4 seconds, when the previous 5 blades are going to disappear. In other words: shouldn't I start with 10 blades? But it will F*ck my mana cost. Maybe the problem with duration is because of skill effect duration, which i didn't have yet?


I can't say for sure, but your description strongly suggests that you are messing up the timing. And I looked at your tree, you did not pick any of the two Duration clusters near the Scion area (Exceptional Performance and Potency of Will), which are a MUST HAVE, so that your BV last 8+ secs instead of 5 secs.

1. You cast once - you get 5 blades with 8.2s duration.
2. 4.1 sec later, you cast again, get 5 new blades. The 5 old blades still have 4.1s left on their duration
3. 4.1 sec later, the blades from step 1 disappeared, but you cast again, so you have 5 new blades, and 5 blades from step 2 with 4.1s left on their duration.
4. And so on and on it goes...

Hopefully that helps you fix your rhythm.
Last edited by RudyBaby on Feb 11, 2021, 4:36:05 AM
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skiminok1989 wrote:
So I did lots of testing (mostly related to survivability) and it's turns out that Recover #% ES on Kill amazing for clearing highly juiced maps. I was able to complete T18 100% Delirious map with 91% recovery reduction (probably would fail without it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omsfiOjI1V8


Recovery on kill being amazing is the reason why I highly recommend a well rolled Cinderswallow flask. 3% of life + mana + ES on kill is just stupid amounts of recovery that is not affected by less recovery rate, no regen, or no leech modifiers.
Last edited by RudyBaby on Feb 11, 2021, 4:34:33 AM

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