[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

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alphazeta33 wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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alphazeta33 wrote:

So this doesn't currently apply to me, but I wonder what the mana reservation looks like for those of you with level 5 enlightens and Viridi's? It would take us to a level 7 enlighten which is a 76% multiplier instead of 84%.

how do you get a level 5 Enlighten gem? I thought level 3 was top, then corrupt to level 4.

Virdis's would make it a level 6 I think.

oh yeah I'm dumb. Never mind it would just be a level 6 max.

my favorite part of the no defiance banner build I hope to play in 3.17 is only needing an Enlighten 2. That should save the build a nice chunk of change.

Here's my PoB. https://pastebin.com/7rNB8hig

Definitely losing out on both damage and mana from no Crown, have to run Clarity to keep up mana regen. I know I have an empty jewel socket as well; I'll probably throw a crit multiplier jewel in there.

Debating whether to pay for an Elemental Pen or just go ahead and buy a 3B3R Skin to add in awakened fire pen. Most 4th blue gem options for 4B2R are pretty bad, faster casting was giving me 200k DPS though so I've gone with that for now.

I find that Corrupted Soul causes me to take a lot of damage to life that doesn't come back nearly as fast as ES. What's a good source of more life recovery? If there was room for more gems, perhaps a Reckoning + Life Gain on Hit link would help me.

Overall I'm happy with the performance for how scuffed my setup is. Still have to work on not dying to big hits but this is tanking nearly all bosses which I've wanted from a build for a long time.

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alphazeta33 wrote:

Here's my PoB. https://pastebin.com/7rNB8hig

Definitely losing out on both damage and mana from no Crown, have to run Clarity to keep up mana regen. I know I have an empty jewel socket as well; I'll probably throw a crit multiplier jewel in there.

Debating whether to pay for an Elemental Pen or just go ahead and buy a 3B3R Skin to add in awakened fire pen. Most 4th blue gem options for 4B2R are pretty bad, faster casting was giving me 200k DPS though so I've gone with that for now.

I find that Corrupted Soul causes me to take a lot of damage to life that doesn't come back nearly as fast as ES. What's a good source of more life recovery? If there was room for more gems, perhaps a Reckoning + Life Gain on Hit link would help me.

Overall I'm happy with the performance for how scuffed my setup is. Still have to work on not dying to big hits but this is tanking nearly all bosses which I've wanted from a build for a long time.

I think you already know this but if you can afford the Crown, I would make the switch. You can get the correct enchant on the crown for 1-2 ex in league right now.

Once you get the crown, grab a rare ring with chaos res, and Channeling Skills have -4 to Mana cost. Once you get this, remove clarity, and change the Mastery back to 10% Reduced cost of mana skills. You should be able to sustain Incinerate now.

I think others have experimented with Corrupted Soul but eventually found it was not worth it. For life recovery, we have always relied on a flask and leech.

Watched a video by Fyregrass on the implications of conqurors in the map tab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3nv9W_I0Yg

Awakened gems and Inward eye may be more rare and expensive in 3.17

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Chubbypuppy wrote:

Watched a video by Fyregrass on the implications of conqurors in the map tab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3nv9W_I0Yg

Awakened gems and Inward eye may be more rare and expensive in 3.17

That was a good video and he makes good points. The good news for us is that we don't rely on any influenced gear which will probably also be more expensive. We also only use one awakened gem and it's one of the cheapest ones.

If the rarity of Crown means a different helmet is needed I'd replace one of the anoints (Soul of Steel?) with tranquility to gain back some of the dps and es like I did when switching to Viridi's Veil.

In pob if you switch out crown for a generic rare helmet you lose ~600k dps, but if you swap Soul of Steel anoint for Tranquility the dps loss is now only ~200k. You can actually get a small dps increase if the helmet has the enemy fire res delve mod.


I've been farming and selling elder/shaper frags for decent profit this league instead of one of my usual zoom zoom farming styles and I like the change of pace even if the ex/hr isn't as high with this slow old man. Now that we'll also be able to farm conqueror frags this build looks even better for next league IMO as long as atlas passives allow us to reliably farm them. Change to Guardian's Aid to say "Shaper, Elder, and Conqueror..." would be awesome!

Edit: I should add this applies to the new version with Leadership's price

Unless the conqueror map drops themselves are super rare, I am not that worried about the crown or awakened gem availability. If the maps drop at the same rate as the elder and shaper maps, there will be a ton of sirus fights happening.

Crown is the most common drop from Sirus so there should still be plenty to go around.

That being said, it never hurts to look at other options. I know we probably won't find the enchant to buy but would something like this work?

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Flamesight


We could also use a cheap stat based unqiue like this one which would free up the rare ring/glove slot to look for other mods like frenzy/culling strike/unnerve etc.


https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Geofri%27s_Crest

I definitely think looking at other options is a good idea considering prophecies are also going away. We won't know for sure until league starts, but there might not be as many incinerate enchants out there since lab runners aren't going to have Twice Enchanted any more.

Maybe patch notes will finally have lab changes so enchant pool is limited to possibilities for currently socketed gems so we can just farm our own enchant on whatever helmet we want. Probably not, but I can dream at least.:-)

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stoudtlr wrote:

I definitely think looking at other options is a good idea considering prophecies are also going away. We won't know for sure until league starts, but there might not be as many incinerate enchants out there since lab runners aren't going to have Twice Enchanted any more.

Maybe patch notes will finally have lab changes so enchant pool is limited to possibilities for currently socketed gems so we can just farm our own enchant on whatever helmet we want. Probably not, but I can dream at least.:-)

God I would love this. I don't mind grinding but finding the right helmet enchant even with the expanded options is like winning the lottery.

I would enjoy them putting in some method where the chances of finding what you need are significantly increased.

Well, if Inward Eye does become more rare, and we decide it's not a core item of the build anymore, then finding incinerate+2 should actually be easier since it's on more helms. I highly doubt lab runners CHOOSE +2 incinerate if they have any better choice, this is just not that popular a build.

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Chubbypuppy wrote:

Well, if Inward Eye does become more rare, and we decide it's not a core item of the build anymore, then finding incinerate+2 should actually be easier since it's on more helms. I highly doubt lab runners CHOOSE +2 incinerate if they have any better choice, this is just not that popular a build.

That is very true.

Unrelated note, I decided to try Simulacrum on crit Guardian version and gave up at wave 26. I wasn't dying, but neither was Kosis. Lol. We had a stalemate. Dps on my guardian is too low. I could only drop his energy shield to about 1/10th before he would phase and it went back to full. Probably fought him for 20mins before I gave up and teleported out.

Good news is that Exilence says I made a 2ex profit even though I only completed 25 waves.