[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

With how nerfed some of the unique flasks are, I am currently using an enduring mana flask with poison removal. I don't have any minus cost ring chants (was hard to get my resists and stats where I wanted to go coward legacy) and my mana is fine. Without it I eventually run out of mana, but slowly. Just another option.

One of my armor flask has +12% cast speed, not sure if that can be rolled on mana flask nowadays. That's a 6.7% POB DPS increase for me, rivaling some of the unique flasks (same as Wise Oak for me), so if you can get that on a mana flasks you can take care of the mana problem and not lose much DPS.

Edit: Quick POE trade search seems to show it's only on utility flasks, too bad.

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Physium wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Brigetiol wrote:

you can save another 3 points (mystic bulwark, mana and spell block, mana mastery) by using rings with "-8 total mana cost of skills", works for channeling and non channeling skills too. with fertile catalists it can be raised to -9. I think, it is a veiled mod. in standard the prices are affordable.

I don't think this mod exists in 3.16.

I too can see it on standard but when I do the same search on Scourge it does not exist except on Uniques like Praxis.

Interesting. I can actually get a -3 mana cost to channeling either on my amulet or ring at a sacrifice of 55 max life.. is -7 total enough to save 3 passive points? I wonder… need to try lol

I did a quick look in POB and I think it will be enough. 3 points saved is very nice at the cost on 1 mod on a piece of gear.

To be honest, we kind of panicked during theory crafting when we saw we could not sustain mana and the Mystic Bulmark group made for a quick solution but we never went back and took a closer look at it.

I REALLY want to find a way to sneak in a megalomaniac in the open cluster jewel socket and this would really help.

Please let us know if you do get this to work correctly in game.

I have found this about getting the -8 total cost mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMT-14NCOWg&t=9s. the rings have to be dropped by Elreon, only these ones can be used. in 3.15 it worked, that is the last info I could find.
I have tested this version today, without mana issues.
https://pastebin.com/K8GcTp9z
this is only a test-build, the Lords is not the perfect one, but it was too cheap to miss, there are some modifications only to make this specific setup to work, I'm just trying to get as close as I can to the official version. I have dropped discipline and 30ES gained on hit too, thanks for the tip, it seems to work:)

Just tried, not too good with -7, feels very close to sustain frankly. I would think -8 would be perfect. Since I had EO on my armor, I re-routed with the free 3 points to get a free jewel slot. However, mana sustain is not perfect, once in a while I do run out of mana. I see myself using back clarity aura, which is ok since I had free gem slots.

The 3 points feels good in the sense I have two jewel slots now. Need to test more to know.

https://pastebin.com/jn16WdX5

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Physium wrote:

Just tried, not too good with -7, feels very close to sustain frankly. I would think -8 would be perfect. Since I had EO on my armor, I re-routed with the free 3 points to get a free jewel slot. However, mana sustain is not perfect, once in a while I do run out of mana. I see myself using back clarity aura, which is ok since I had free gem slots.

The 3 points feels good in the sense I have two jewel slots now. Need to test more to know.

https://pastebin.com/jn16WdX5

there is an interesting side effect to this experiment which is what I think may be causing you some periodic issues.

Incin is not the problem in your setup. You can channel incin, with or with out exposure, for ever.

However, when you removed the mastery point next to Mystic Bullmark, you also lost the 10% cost of mana skills. This has trickled down and caused both your CWDT setup and your curse setup to eat more mana each time they are automatically cast.

Also, the fact that you now have to use clarity is also chewing up your unreserved mana pool and you are left with a very small pool to run the build and have no real room for when everything wants to fire at the same time.

And when you also factor in the increased costs of IC and Flame Dash when you periodically have to use them, I think it makes sense that you will see some down time when channeling.

I also think there will be times you won't be able to auto cast either the curses or the CWDT setup due to lack of mana at the exact time they want to cast.

With the advice of Chubby and others I made the following change:


* Swapped Discipline for HOA

This removed ~1k ES and roughly 5% EHP from Phy/Fire/Cold/Lighting. It had no effect on EHP of Chaos

* Damage increased ~12% more.

* Because Discipline is 35% reserve and HOA is only 25%, I decided to use the armor base cluster for Uncompromising instead of the mana efficiency base cluster. This gave me 15% increased armor and was cheaper than the mana efficiency base for Uncompromising

* I can maintain Incin in hideout. No exposure is needed (Arcane Surge alone carried me)

* I have a very healthy 219 unreserved mana which is more than enough to never have any mana issues

* I only had time for one test but I ran a semi juiced T16 map and got to around 120 Scourge. The map had a "no exposure" mod so I was not at full damage and it still felt great and had no mana sustain issues since Arcane surge alone carried me even with out the burst from Mastermind of Discord.


I will do some more testing later today to see how survivability is under different situations.

Oh nice, there's an armor basis for Uncompromising?! Time to upgrade!

Edit: Hmm nvm, that mana efficient small node is giving me about 50 unreserved mana, need to keep that

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Chubbypuppy wrote:

Oh nice, there's an armor basis for Uncompromising?! Time to upgrade!

Edit: Hmm nvm, that mana efficient small node is giving me about 50 unreserved mana, need to keep that

We must have some differences in our builds. I have 219 mana free with the armor base on uncompromising

You are right! My HOA was linked to increased duration which added to its reservation cost. I'll fix it tonight, I think your new base adds another 2K armor, thanks!

New Incinerate MTX released today

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1457852895718567936?s=20