Wolcen Hype Release!

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Johny_Snow wrote:
So you wont play Last Epoch because its not offline but will go back to Diablo 3 which is always online?


I don't buy ARPGs that don't have an offline option, anymore. I purchased D3 years ago, so I already have it in my possession. The developers are cutting their own necks by not having an offline beta. They're losing customers over it, how many is anyone's guess. That just means I'm going to wait for release, pay less for the game when it releases, and not support their game during development because they don't have an offline option. That's their choice, and that's my response to their choice.

I have no intentions of buying or playing Diablo 4, if it releases without an offline option. It's rumored to basically be like an MMORPG, which means I am most definitely not going to even entertain the possibility of buying it, if true.
Last edited by MrSmiley21#1051 on Feb 26, 2020, 11:36:04 PM
You must live somewhere where you got internet only half the time or something.
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Johny_Snow wrote:
You must live somewhere where you got internet only half the time or something.


My internet isn't the most reliable, and it's prone to having erratic latency spikes. Unfortunately, I can't do much to remedy this, other than move. And I like it out here more than I hate bad internet.

D3 seems to handle latency spikes a little better than PoE does.

I don't expect a game in beta like Last Epoch to have particularly great net coding, so latency spikes would make the game pretty much unplayable, or get my character killed repeatedly. If for some reason Last Epoch functions differently, and most of the stuff is done client side, meaning it doesn't communicate with the server for every action in game, I might be able to play it, but I asked a question on their forums about this and nobody bothered to answer, so I'm assuming it's the same as PoE.

But if someone wants to answer the question of "Can I play Last Epoch online with bad ping" without latency impacting my gameplay, then I might get it if I can play it without much issue.
Last edited by MrSmiley21#1051 on Feb 26, 2020, 11:47:47 PM
When I first started playing, just after release combat was completely unplayable. I was getting delays of about a second each time I clicked on an enemy. I tried again today after patching and the problem has gone away, so I can actually play now.

I've just finished Act 1 and so far so good, no other problems at all. I can definitely say I prefer playing PoE so far, but I'm still having enough fun with it to continue.
hooo boy, today is not a good day for the game. 122 positive reviews against 287 negative. Its been mostly negative-heavy since launch but never this bad.
I'm frequently getting stuck above the world when using Wings of Whatever skill for movement and buffs, seeing a lot of mobs getting stuck (and inaccessible) on various environment objects, and seeing AoE ground effects for specialist/champ mobs without any mobs of any kind nearby.

New patch features are solid, or something. And the best part is, none of the host of new problems, whether minor or serious, are going to be fixed before next weekend. If their claim of one patch day per week holds true anyway.
I have a pretty good sense of humor. I'm not German.
Last edited by aggromagnet#5565 on Feb 27, 2020, 4:13:21 AM
Yeah, a good friend of mine used Wings of Ishmir, landed on top of a tree. Made for a nice screenshot.

Mobs spawning in impossible places is disturbingly frequent. Morosian Seers out of bounds, Demons of Flesh inside walls, that sort of thing. You can't hit them, they can't hit you. And if they're a target for a mandate, well, that's a dead mandate. Oh well. Not like it really costs anything at that point.

I imagine this is also why they haven't re-enabled random dungeon generation. The geometry and the spawning aren't fully reconciled.

There's no reason to doubt their one patch per week claim. I dunno. Unless they break the game completely with one of them I don't really care. Heck, even if they did I wouldn't be that upset. There are other things to play. I've paid for the game. Mine forever. It'll be there when they fix it.

Strange how going from a support addict of one particular game back to a regular old gamer bouncing from title to title has improved my perspective on these things. $20 purchase years ago. Currently at 506 hours played. Game could die tomorrow and I'd be very sad, especially for the devs, but not howling for a refund.

The number of people doing just that because their one clearly broken build got a reality check is hilarious. The entitlement!



https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
I somehow doubt many people purchase a game with the mentality "I bought it, now I'll wait a bunch of months, even years until they fix it".
That's the ridiculous part. It's not broken. I've been playing all day, online. Not a single crash. A few bugs, sure. Some skills not working as they should. That is not a broken game. Error 37. That was broken. There was absolutely no way to play that game while it was going on. Anthem, there's a broken game. Insane resource hog with frequent crashes, and that's assuming you can get it working. Also online-only, so if the servers ever go splat, that's that.

But if I can play a game all day with no issues beyond a few spawn bugs, balance discrepancies and some non-functioning features, I simply can't declare that broken. Because if I do, then PoE is also broken, because I *can't* play that all day without crashes and disconnects. I put up with a week of that during late Morph and was like nope, fuck this. Was it me? Probably. But to me, that was broken and I absolutely couldn't be arsed figuring out why. So maybe I just got lucky with Wolcen. If so, so did everyone else on my steam list playing it quite a lot.

I suppose it comes down to one's idea of 'broken', but in my 30 something years of gaming, Wolcen isn't even in the top twenty broken-on-release games I've experienced. And some of them were before the internet, so that was a barrel of laughs too.

I repeat: the entitlement.

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https://wolcen-universe.com/ -- It's a bit janky, and definitely a WIP, but decent enough for planning, saving and sharing builds.
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Feb 27, 2020, 6:18:01 AM
The only thing I had to do was change my PoE server and the crashes disappeared. Guess I was lucky because out of my dozens of hours in Metamorph I did not experience a single crash (other than the game getting fucked when I alt+tab from full screen mode).

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