[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium
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hitmantb wrote:
01/06 Update:
Every time I think I am done, someone provides a tip that makes this build even more unfair. Ability to use hatred, skitterbot and flesh and stone together WITHOUT helmet enchant is . . . absurd, and I just realized everyone can do this with the exception of 2R-2G-2B players. Check your POB!
1) Re-wrote the section on Skin of Royal color choices. For newer players feel free to pick something with less damage and mana reservation, makes rest of your game easier/cheaper at all stages.
You will want at least 2 Green 2 Red for Herald of Agony, Pierce, Empower and Damage On Full Life. The last two skills are variable. While Vicious Projectile and Minion Damage provides the best damage and we will use it as baseline, especially with awakened gems, it is also most expensive both in term of mana reserved and price.
Don't be afraid to pick up a different color combination for cheap while you are starting out, or grab a corrupted +2 level to socketed gems Skin of Loyal if a different color is available.
*For 2R-4G, use hypothermia if you have skitterbot to apply chilled, otherwise vile poison which will have variable damage depend on 0-10 poison stacks.
The lower mana cost means it is easier for you to activate the next aura at every stage until you have herald of agony, hatred, skitterbot and flesh and stone all activated. And yes this can be done without a super expensive helmet enchant. You need to max roll your Circle of Nostalgia to 40% reduced mana reservation and pick up every mana reservation trick in the guide if you are using 2R-3G-1B, and the requirement goes down immensely if you are using other combinations.
2) Updated mana reservation section, if you have all of this, you can do all three auras!
1)Conqueror's Efficiency
2) Two corrupted jewels with 1% mana reservation reduction, notice because of some really funky formulas, one jewel doesn't do anything.
3) Level 4 enlighten
4) Corrupted shaper's touch for +1 socketed gem level and you get level 5 enlighten equivalent
5) Well-rolled Circle of Nostalgia (40% is needed if you use 2R-3G-1B and Vicious Projectile)
6) Get Charisma on your amulet
If you have everything above with max roll 40% Circle of Nostalgia, you will be able to use Hatred, Skitter Bot, Flesh and Stone with Vicious Projectile, WITHOUT helmet enchant. A massive power spike without one of the most expensive enchants in the game today. If you are NOT using 2R-3G-1B or 2R-2G-2B, you can most likely do it without the max roll so play around with this in POB. (Thank you Mythrol1!)
Sample POB: https://pastebin.com/Su0kQV4N
I am going to start rolling my Circle of Nostalgia for a 40% roll, damage does not matter. Sand stance blinds everyone around you, I think I actually like it more than discipline especially against bosses like Aul. It gives our build a raider like RNG ceiling that we did not have before.
Currently at my setup im running 40% ring, skitter enchant,1 jewel with 1%reduced mana corrupt,charisma on amulet and the +1 gloves with lvl 4 enligthen feels pretty smooth,took the conqueror efficiency off and can replace with a decent jewel with mana strength or minion dmg feels pretty nice
heres pob - https://pastebin.com/z3jdpqXh
Last edited by CutieSabba#7164 on Jan 7, 2020, 8:01:42 AM
Ok, tested it. I don't save any passives. With all the mana reservation nodes, Charisma, Conquerors Efficiency, 40% CoN, Enlighten 5 linked to Hatred and Skitterbots, and 2x1% reduced reservation corruption I come out at 1% unreserved with VP, Pierce, Minion Damage, Empower and DOFL.
I mean it fits, but I lost 1600 ES, from the annoint and from using Conquerors Efficiency over a rare jewel. And would of course not be able to slot in my single target Vile Toxins over Pierce. Sadly in my case it doesn't seem to be worth it.
And if I see this correctly, I would need to get another 3 point jewl socket when I buy my Watchers Eye, which would result in more ES lost.
If it was only the ES I lost, I would consider it. But as I do a lot of bossing to farm currency, not being able to use the huge single target boost from slotting in Vile Toxins over Pierce would really hurt my particular usage of the build.
i would agree that the trade is not worth it sadly because you are losing a jewel socket for conquerer's efficieny. you are basically trading between 10-13% ES for 11% DR for mobs outside the aura. which seems fine if there was no other invesment needed but it severely restricts any other variants to your setup.
that being said, if you can get any %mana reduction enchant then it's definitely worth. but they are pretty much all extinct outside of the HoAg one and that's way too expensive
You can get a skitterbot enchant pretty easily for less then 10ex. and then just need 40%roll on ring and 1 jewel with corrupt,you can even drop conqueror effiency complety and that means you can socket a ghastly jewel with mana strenght and minion dmg
You can get a skitterbot enchant pretty easily for less then 10ex. and then just need 40%roll on ring and 1 jewel with corrupt,you can even drop conqueror effiency complety and that means you can socket a ghastly jewel with mana strenght and minion dmg
I managed to pick up flesh and stone for 2ex and that's enough with my gem setup. Just need a couple ex for a +1 glove and I'm all set for the 4th aura without changing my tree or jewel
Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Jan 7, 2020, 8:14:03 AM
So I managed to fit in Flesh and Stone. Still able to gem swap for Vile Toxins and not using Conquerors Efficiency. All it took was switching to Charisma annoint and getting this unexplainably cheap helmet enchant:
While every other aura reservation is expensive as fuck, this just cost me 3ex.
Now running Hatred, Skitterbots, HoAg, Flesh and Stone and a high level Clarity while being able to use the best support gem combination for HoAg, both for clearing and for single target.
And the effect of Flesh and Stone has already become very obvious, very quickly in my relatively deep delves of 630. A ton less burst damage moments because the melee monsters are all blinded and the ranged monsters deal less damage.
At this point I'm not even sure what I would do with a Herald of Agony reduced reservation enchant. It won't be enough to use Discipline on top of Flesh and Stone. At most I could use it instead of Flesh of Stone, and would still have to keep Charisma.
Yea, thats not even close to being worth 60ex for the enchant :D
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 7, 2020, 8:24:14 AM
So I managed to fit in Flesh and Stone. Still able to gem swap for Vile Toxins and not using Conquerors Efficiency. All it took was switching to Charisma annoint and getting this unexplainably cheap helmet enchant:
While every other aura reservation is expensive as fuck, this just cost me 3ex.
Now running Hatred, Skitterbots, HoAg, Flesh and Stone and a high level Clarity while being able to use the best support gem combination for HoAg, both for clearing and for single target.
And the effect of Flesh and Stone has already become very obvious, very quickly in my relatively deep delves of 630. A ton less burst damage moments because the melee monsters are all blinded and the ranged monsters deal less damage.
At this point I'm not even sure what I would do with a Herald of Agony reduced reservation enchant. It won't be enough to use Discipline on top of Flesh and Stone. At most I could use it instead of Flesh of Stone, and would still have to keep Charisma.
Yea, thats not even close to being worth 60ex for the enchant :D
Check out my level 100 POB, double curse thanks to enfeeble glove (no need for socketed gem level) and discipline with that enchant.
However I think flesh and stone is more OP than another 2000 energy shield.
So I managed to fit in Flesh and Stone. Still able to gem swap for Vile Toxins and not using Conquerors Efficiency. All it took was switching to Charisma annoint and getting this unexplainably cheap helmet enchant:
While every other aura reservation is expensive as fuck, this just cost me 3ex.
Now running Hatred, Skitterbots, HoAg, Flesh and Stone and a high level Clarity while being able to use the best support gem combination for HoAg, both for clearing and for single target.
And the effect of Flesh and Stone has already become very obvious, very quickly in my relatively deep delves of 630. A ton less burst damage moments because the melee monsters are all blinded and the ranged monsters deal less damage.
At this point I'm not even sure what I would do with a Herald of Agony reduced reservation enchant. It won't be enough to use Discipline on top of Flesh and Stone. At most I could use it instead of Flesh of Stone, and would still have to keep Charisma.
Yea, thats not even close to being worth 60ex for the enchant :D
Check out my level 100 POB, double curse thanks to enfeeble glove (no need for socketed gem level) and discipline with that enchant.
However I think flesh and stone is more OP than another 2000 energy shield.
Ah right, double curse. That would be more worth it. And I just thought of another use for the HoAg enchant: Keep Flesh and Stone and use Dread Banner as a 5th aura. It is a pretty significant damage boost and will fit in on top of Flesh and Stone.
So double curse Enfeeble and Dread Banner. Both defensive and offensive boost through the enchant.
I played with double curse for a bit and in the end I didn't think it was worth it. It feels pretty redundant in mapping because trash never hurts you and for bosses they are very ineffective making them a lot weaker than it looks like at first.
That being said, the double curse would probably be extremely effective for deep delving but I never got around to it while I had it setup.
okay guys, i sold the HH and got like 100ex to spent now.
I know that i lack the empower and enlighten at the moment.
But i already level 3 of each and wait if they get to lvl 4 or not.
What other upgrades would you force now?
I think i go for double curse. Dont know wich one we should pick on the gloves tho.
I thought about the watchers eye.
So for deep delve you guys stick to flesh and stone and dont even try to go disci?
Im really a bit confused with so much currency....
I hope i respecced my tree right. Sadly my Lethal pride does not at any good stuff atm.
Well, getting your HoAg to level 31 would be something to focus on. Needs a wand with two +1 mods, a +1 corrupted Skin and a +1 amulet. And Empower 4 of course, but you already planned for that.
Level 31 is so important because it is a breakpoint for both attack speed (goes from 4 to 5% and physical damage gained (goes from 15 to 16%) per Virulence stack. The last breakpoint for attack speed was at level 21. So going from 30 to 31 will be a bigger boost than any 3 level gain before.
Otherwise just look at what people are doing, to find ideas for upgrades. +1 gloves, awakened minion damage, jewels with 1% reduced reservation, and so on.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 7, 2020, 9:20:43 AM
okay guys, i sold the HH and got like 100ex to spent now.
I know that i lack the empower and enlighten at the moment.
But i already level 3 of each and wait if they get to lvl 4 or not.
What other upgrades would you force now?
Why would you wait lol they are huge upgrades for the build... Just level them in offhands and sell them if you hit any.
And there are a lot of upgrades to work on. +2 wand, +1 corrupted skin, +1 ammy, rare belt with %attributes and str/mana/es, some kind of reservation helmet, +1 gloves and a watchers eye. You should easily be able to afford everything if you don't overpay to buy it immediately