[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

Is there a reason this build doesn't use Righteous Army or Spiritual Aid minion passives?

Seems like a good DPS boost.

Am I missing something?
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Mecielle wrote:
Alright, two HUGE upgrades happened within 15 minutes. I bought this amulet for 2ex and multimodded it, so 4ex total:



To make it work I had to change a +30 str node to a +30 dex node. That was enough to still use a 21 HoAg gem. Now I had a level 31 HoAg, which is a 23% total DPS boost over a level 30. In my case it was 950k more Shaper DPS. And I lost only 350 ES, which is SO totally worth it.

And then this:



came on the market for 40ex. Was actually planning to use my remaining saved up currency on a Watchers Eye, but 40ex for a +2 with perfect colors seemed incredibly cheap from having watched the market over the last days.

My numbers:

15100 ES
Shaper DPS with Pierce: 4.3m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 5.1m

And I am not using Unwavering Crusade! With it it would be:

Shaper DPS with Pierce: 5.1m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 6m

So yea, 6m Shaper DPS reached if I decide to switch Time of Need or Bastion of Hope back to Unwavering Crusade. But honestly, the numbers are already insane enough without it, and they both provide significant defense and utility.


how are you calculating shaper DPS? cuz when I import your char, I get 2.8m tailspike dps.
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Mecielle wrote:
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Suds1029 wrote:
I have a Skin of the Loyal that I want to use instead of my Tabula, but it has 2R2G2B. What is the best gem setup for a 6-link with those colors? Is it even worth switched from a tabula with these colors? Thanks for help. Loving the build so far, feels really nice not dying so often.


2b is always hard, 0b would even be better. 4g2r for example works great if you can't afford 3r2g1b or 3g2r1b. I used a 4g2r +2 Skin for a while.

For 2b you would best go with Deathmark as the second blue link. Can't think of anything else that would help and Deathmark at least gives some damage.


Thanks for the answer. What would you recommend for gems with a 4G2R? Add Vicious projectiles and something else? Really appreciate your help.
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badmoonrisin wrote:
Is there a reason this build doesn't use Righteous Army or Spiritual Aid minion passives?

Seems like a good DPS boost.

Am I missing something?


it doesn't really add as much as you would assume. just test it on PoB.

my dps without those nodes is 5.7m. adding them takes me to 6.08m which is 6.8% dps for 5 points. gravepact on the other hand is 12.5% for 4 points. so over twice as better in value of dps per point. so for 5 points it's pretty bad value and there isn't anywhere to take those 5 points from.

the only reasonable points for some more dmg is probably influence and leadership for 3 points. that gives a total of 8% dps for 3 points. but getting those 3 points without losing a ton of ES is the harder issue

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Suds1029 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
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Suds1029 wrote:
I have a Skin of the Loyal that I want to use instead of my Tabula, but it has 2R2G2B. What is the best gem setup for a 6-link with those colors? Is it even worth switched from a tabula with these colors? Thanks for help. Loving the build so far, feels really nice not dying so often.


2b is always hard, 0b would even be better. 4g2r for example works great if you can't afford 3r2g1b or 3g2r1b. I used a 4g2r +2 Skin for a while.

For 2b you would best go with Deathmark as the second blue link. Can't think of anything else that would help and Deathmark at least gives some damage.


Thanks for the answer. What would you recommend for gems with a 4G2R? Add Vicious projectiles and something else? Really appreciate your help.


vile toxins or hypothermia. either is fine. but always use PoB to see which will be better for your setup. it takes 30 seconds to check
Yea, either of those two. Both have downsides though. For Vile Toxins to have any effect, you need to have hit the monsters with Ball Lighting and poisoned them a few times. Not a problem for single target, there is Vile Toxin great. But while clearing or delving it will often have no effect because you simply won't be poisoning all the monsters.

Hypothermia on the other hand either only works after the first hit when your Crawler chilled the monsters, or you have to use Skitterbots. Then even the first hit will have the damage boost from Hypothermia.

As Skitterbots is a best in slot "aura" anyways and I was using it, I went with Hypothermia.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 4, 2020, 7:52:35 PM
Hello,

i am following this guide, it goes well but i want to ask about crafted two toned boots.

How can i get +20 implicit bonus on these boots, maximum is only 12
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Aggronaught wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:
Alright, two HUGE upgrades happened within 15 minutes. I bought this amulet for 2ex and multimodded it, so 4ex total:



To make it work I had to change a +30 str node to a +30 dex node. That was enough to still use a 21 HoAg gem. Now I had a level 31 HoAg, which is a 23% total DPS boost over a level 30. In my case it was 950k more Shaper DPS. And I lost only 350 ES, which is SO totally worth it.

And then this:



came on the market for 40ex. Was actually planning to use my remaining saved up currency on a Watchers Eye, but 40ex for a +2 with perfect colors seemed incredibly cheap from having watched the market over the last days.

My numbers:

15100 ES
Shaper DPS with Pierce: 4.3m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 5.1m

And I am not using Unwavering Crusade! With it it would be:

Shaper DPS with Pierce: 5.1m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 6m

So yea, 6m Shaper DPS reached if I decide to switch Time of Need or Bastion of Hope back to Unwavering Crusade. But honestly, the numbers are already insane enough without it, and they both provide significant defense and utility.


how are you calculating shaper DPS? cuz when I import your char, I get 2.8m tailspike dps.


To keep it compareable, I did what people usually do in these threads: Use the same settings as the PoB posted by OP. Only taking stuff out if you change some stuff. Like I removed Intimidate because I use Bastion of Hope instead.

I assume you took out frenzy charges and disabled Bottled Faith. Although then i still don't reach as low as 2.8m. And it is also wrong. I use a Writhing Jar to keep the Crawler up on Frenzies in the rare occasion where there are no adds in a bossfight. And I have yet to encounter a bossfight where Bottled Faith was not working at least 50% of the time.

Dunno what else you have taken out. And thats the reason why people usually just usee the settings used by OP.
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Kruttor666 wrote:
Hello,

i am following this guide, it goes well but i want to ask about crafted two toned boots.

How can i get +20 implicit bonus on these boots, maximum is only 12


You can't. OP is a Standard player. There he can get the legacy 20% Two-Tones boots. In league just use the 12%.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jan 4, 2020, 8:05:06 PM
I'll happily admit I got lucky with just 3 tries. I was just winging it really. Got +1 to spells on second try so figured keep trying, though I only had enough fossils for 5 tries. I might've bought a ready made wand otherwise (or delved more for the fossils) rng is rng.

I saw a small discussion about 2b/2g/2r mine is corrupted ofc and yeah I use deathmark and then Pierce for clearing and swap with viscous projectiles for certain bosses. But I can't really complain though, even UE didn't take all that long to kill even with boosted HP and deathmark is nice especially for bossing.

Next up for me would likely be getting enlighten 4/etc so I can take off charisma from my neck possibly and get a better resist ring and craft better boots.
Last edited by bluesylph#4115 on Jan 4, 2020, 8:16:03 PM

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