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I'm afraid that I'm too nub for this build. Can you help me with fixing it? Thanks

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SzmuglerBigosu wrote:

I'm afraid that I'm too nub for this build. Can you help me with fixing it? Thanks

You have to create the links, sockets and setups mate. You're only using 1 set of links (and you should grab a 2c lvl 21 lightning trap).
You're ES, but you're running multiple life flasks and mana flasks, please replace them with the ones in the guide - you shouldn't need mana flasks either at that level.

Can you share your flask automation (if you use them). Not sure if they appear on the website character yet.

Hello all,

I'm having fun with the build, clearing T16 maps etc. but my luck this league is really bad, I've been doing the currency recipe like 5 times and 0 ex drops, I'm barely making any money, currently with 31c .. maybe one of the unluckiest leagues I've ever had, but anyway.

I'm guessing I should start by getting a 6 link shav, and the %ES shield on block as my next upgrades ?

My problem really is the damage, but i guess thats normal without a 6link, survivability is fine, unless i brain fart into something.

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bathristowow wrote:

Hello all,

I'm having fun with the build, clearing T16 maps etc. but my luck this league is really bad, I've been doing the currency recipe like 5 times and 0 ex drops, I'm barely making any money, currently with 31c .. maybe one of the unluckiest leagues I've ever had, but anyway.

I'm guessing I should start by getting a 6 link shav, and the %ES shield on block as my next upgrades ?

My problem really is the damage, but i guess thats normal without a 6link, survivability is fine, unless i brain fart into something.

You're doing well being on T16's on a 5Link, most people/builds can't do that in any meaningful way.

Your weapon is by far your biggest hold-back right now from what I can tell, then your shavs(6L). Idk how you actually manage to kill anything with your current weapon, no offense!

You need to asap replace that and you can find huge upgrades even with just 3-5c budget, you'll gain so much more damage. Also the craft you added does not work for spells, it's only for attacks which we don't have.

Do this>
Search for "Lightning spell damage" put it 90 minimum.
Add also: "global multiplier" put it 28 minimum.
(these are the 2 main stats)
finally, add a 3rd filter like "count" and in here, you can add multiple substats that are decent but less important than flat% and multiplier.

Stuff like, added lightning dmg to spells, +1 lightning spell gems, crit to spells etc.

I've made you a quick example here and as you'll see they start as low as 1-2 chaos.

Regarding shaper shield with recover es-on-block, it is a game-changer for survival. The single biggest layer which combines the strength of block with the strength of recovery which cannot be interrupted.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/bWZOo5aTL

my 50 cent on the build found on https://oestergreen.dk/dissentxtv/ webpage:
- level 100 (alira) basics: you cannot wear half of your gear since you dont have enough str and dext. In my opinion, a few pieces of armor need to be changed to get what is missing. It cannot be the ring since you really need resist as you are very close to 75 without Wise Oak.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 1 : with the shock set to 20% the dps drop to 4M per hit. And anyway you set the 60% shock effect while not having the lightning mastery nodes anymore. Also the dexterity is too low. A tree with level 95 would be nice.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 2 : There is not enough dexterity. In my opninion this is the best tree mostly because it offers much more jewels than the two others. It also deserves a level 95 version because it is very hard to have both cluster and the thread of hope below level 95.




Overall comment on shock : i do not think you have 60% effect of shock in your build since you have no node increasing shock effect, only 1 node increasing shock effect upper value. Skitterbot shock effect is 19% at level 20 according to wiki. When you shock effet is set to 0 instead of 60 in path of building, it results in a shock effect of 17% on Sirus. Then with those values, your dps drops at 4M with level 100 (alira) basics. With 4M per hit, you dont have much more shock effect than you already have with the skittebot. According to wiki, you need to hit at 5M to have a 26% shock effect and 25M to have a 50% shock effect. In my opinion, any other node in lightning mastery is much better than the ''your shock can increase damage up to 60%''. I assumed in those calculation that the damage Dealt already take all resistances debuff into account.

Damn I really feel bad for you @oestergreen. So many comments from people that don't bother going through the first post. Big props to you and thanks for the fun build :) I'm having a blast

dblp*

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TipYourFedora wrote:

Damn I really feel bad for you @oestergreen. So many comments from people that don't bother going through the first post. Big props to you and thanks for the fun build :) I'm having a blast

Glad to hear it mate and well.. I knew the risks when making a guide;P *sort of* haha ...*hesitant laugh..*

Have a gr8 league:)

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demisp wrote:

Can you share your flask automation (if you use them). Not sure if they appear on the website character yet.

Adjacent roll works well, but imo use whatever you prefer. Used during conditions is good too, like freeze flask used when frozen etc. Stuff like bottled faith i'd never have a trigger on though, as I need control on it.

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vitto369 wrote:

my 50 cent on the build found on https://oestergreen.dk/dissentxtv/ webpage:

Spoiler

- level 100 (alira) basics: you cannot wear half of your gear since you dont have enough str and dext. In my opinion, a few pieces of armor need to be changed to get what is missing. It cannot be the ring since you really need resist as you are very close to 75 without Wise Oak.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 1 : with the shock set to 20% the dps drop to 4M per hit. And anyway you set the 60% shock effect while not having the lightning mastery nodes anymore. Also the dexterity is too low. A tree with level 95 would be nice.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 2 : There is not enough dexterity. In my opninion this is the best tree mostly because it offers much more jewels than the two others. It also deserves a level 95 version because it is very hard to have both cluster and the thread of hope below level 95.

Overall comment on shock : i do not think you have 60% effect of shock in your build since you have no node increasing shock effect, only 1 node increasing shock effect upper value. Skitterbot shock effect is 19% at level 20 according to wiki. When you shock effet is set to 0 instead of 60 in path of building, it results in a shock effect of 17% on Sirus. Then with those values, your dps drops at 4M with level 100 (alira) basics. With 4M per hit, you dont have much more shock effect than you already have with the skittebot. According to wiki, you need to hit at 5M to have a 26% shock effect and 25M to have a 50% shock effect. In my opinion, any other node in lightning mastery is much better than the ''your shock can increase damage up to 60%''. I assumed in those calculation that the damage Dealt already take all resistances debuff into account.

Ty for the feedback mate :)
I've explained in the guide why I don't add dex/str to items in the POB.
If I was to put 30 str on 1 specific item, then newer players would think "oh, i need to have it on THAT item ..."

It doesn't matter where you have your attributes, only that you have them when reaching the point of needing the str/dex. Every suffix on every item is an option and its very random what suffixes 1 player has open compared to the next and whether someone goes for mods like Aisling +70 attributes.

Lastly, it shouldn't be too difficult. You only need 23dex and 35str in your gaer, the rest is on the tree.

As for shock, they changed how shock works against bosses several leagues back and we can easily reach max shock vs end-game bosses now.
Here's a screenshot from Shaper, before I've picked the 60% max shock (so i'm capped at 50% default shock limit)


-- Skitterbots have no impact on this, they only ensure that you can have 19%, even in weak gear and we use them for the more multiplier to traps of course.

Even in my current-league quite bad gear, i'm reaching 45% and will scale that higher once I get better crit and total damage.

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oestergreen wrote:

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TipYourFedora wrote:

Damn I really feel bad for you @oestergreen. So many comments from people that don't bother going through the first post. Big props to you and thanks for the fun build :) I'm having a blast

Glad to hear it mate and well.. I knew the risks when making a guide;P *sort of* haha ...*hesitant laugh..*

Have a gr8 league:)

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demisp wrote:

Can you share your flask automation (if you use them). Not sure if they appear on the website character yet.

Adjacent roll works well, but imo use whatever you prefer. Used during conditions is good too, like freeze flask used when frozen etc. Stuff like bottled faith i'd never have a trigger on though, as I need control on it.

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vitto369 wrote:

my 50 cent on the build found on https://oestergreen.dk/dissentxtv/ webpage:

Spoiler

- level 100 (alira) basics: you cannot wear half of your gear since you dont have enough str and dext. In my opinion, a few pieces of armor need to be changed to get what is missing. It cannot be the ring since you really need resist as you are very close to 75 without Wise Oak.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 1 : with the shock set to 20% the dps drop to 4M per hit. And anyway you set the 60% shock effect while not having the lightning mastery nodes anymore. Also the dexterity is too low. A tree with level 95 would be nice.

- level 100(kill_all)advanced 2 : There is not enough dexterity. In my opninion this is the best tree mostly because it offers much more jewels than the two others. It also deserves a level 95 version because it is very hard to have both cluster and the thread of hope below level 95.

Overall comment on shock : i do not think you have 60% effect of shock in your build since you have no node increasing shock effect, only 1 node increasing shock effect upper value. Skitterbot shock effect is 19% at level 20 according to wiki. When you shock effet is set to 0 instead of 60 in path of building, it results in a shock effect of 17% on Sirus. Then with those values, your dps drops at 4M with level 100 (alira) basics. With 4M per hit, you dont have much more shock effect than you already have with the skittebot. According to wiki, you need to hit at 5M to have a 26% shock effect and 25M to have a 50% shock effect. In my opinion, any other node in lightning mastery is much better than the ''your shock can increase damage up to 60%''. I assumed in those calculation that the damage Dealt already take all resistances debuff into account.

Ty for the feedback mate :)
I've explained in the guide why I don't add dex/str to items in the POB.
If I was to put 30 str on 1 specific item, then newer players would think "oh, i need to have it on THAT item ..."

It doesn't matter where you have your attributes, only that you have them when reaching the point of needing the str/dex. Every suffix on every item is an option and its very random what suffixes 1 player has open compared to the next and whether someone goes for mods like Aisling +70 attributes.

Lastly, it shouldn't be too difficult. You only need 23dex and 35str in your gaer, the rest is on the tree.

As for shock, they changed how shock works against bosses several leagues back and we can easily reach max shock vs end-game bosses now.
Here's a screenshot from Shaper, before I've picked the 60% max shock (so i'm capped at 50% default shock limit)


-- Skitterbots have no impact on this, they only ensure that you can have 19%, even in weak gear and we use them for the more multiplier to traps of course.

Even in my current-league quite bad gear, i'm reaching 45% and will scale that higher once I get better crit and total damage.

thanks for explanations dude !