[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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Shadowbane92 wrote:
I'm planning to start this build next, but I was wondering if Snakepit would be a decent substitute for the chain gem, removing the need to swap in Hypothermia for bosses? Just not sure if the clear would feel good enough with only one chain instead of two.


Not really. You honestly don’t need to switch, but switching on end game bosses does help. Pierce is much better than chain also imo, but it is personal preference.
Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.
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LaplaceNoMa wrote:
Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.


Aye, the crit is bad. We already have 100% effective crit with good gear, its pretty worthless.

The best ones IMO are:

Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry

X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.

I own a clarity, pen under hatred and cold damage under hatred one in standard, its pretty damn good as a jewel if you can find a similar one.
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BeerLeague wrote:
Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry


Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...

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BeerLeague wrote:
X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.


Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.
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LaplaceNoMa wrote:
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BeerLeague wrote:
Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry


Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...

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BeerLeague wrote:
X to crit multi under precision

After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.


Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.


Ah got cha, figured you were using PG with hatred in the setup. spider is much better than zealtory if not running it.
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.
Last edited by NGXIS on Jan 23, 2020, 5:19:51 PM
Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.

Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.

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NGXIS wrote:
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.


The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.

As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.
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Bob123aka wrote:
Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.

Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.



That is correct, the crit multi hell is better though.
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BeerLeague wrote:
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NGXIS wrote:
Hey, have a new doubt.

What about use in weapons gem setup, one with

CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb

and another with

CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall

EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.

And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.


The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.

As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.


Mines doesn't count as hit? Holy... I'll never understand this game.

So, what you think about Frostbite, Cold snap, Frost wall? Can be useful for this build?

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