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I'm planning to start this build next, but I was wondering if Snakepit would be a decent substitute for the chain gem, removing the need to swap in Hypothermia for bosses? Just not sure if the clear would feel good enough with only one chain instead of two.
Not really. You honestly don’t need to switch, but switching on end game bosses does help. Pierce is much better than chain also imo, but it is personal preference.
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Posted byBeerLeagueon Jan 23, 2020, 5:50:40 AM
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Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.
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Posted byLaplaceNoMaon Jan 23, 2020, 11:09:50 AM
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Managed to save up some big bux recently (got awakened added melee, awakened minion damage, succor of the sinless, doctor, ball lightning enchant on a ilvl85 hubris - all in a matter of couple of hours), and am looking into transitioning to a proper 3-mod Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is obvious; for Hatred mod, I don't see why I would want any more crit than I already have, so I went with pen; as for the third, there's not that many good options on the market in the first place, not even looking at the price, but I guess I should be looking at pretty much any Discipline mods I could find, right? There are some Clarity-Hatred-Discipline Watchers on the market right now, but all of those are with the +crit hatred mod.
Aye, the crit is bad. We already have 100% effective crit with good gear, its pretty worthless.
The best ones IMO are:
Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry
X to crit multi under precision
After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.
I own a clarity, pen under hatred and cold damage under hatred one in standard, its pretty damn good as a jewel if you can find a similar one.
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Posted byBeerLeagueon Jan 23, 2020, 11:59:42 AM
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Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry
Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...
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X to crit multi under precision
After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.
Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.
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Posted byLaplaceNoMaon Jan 23, 2020, 12:10:40 PM
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Critical strikes penetrate X resists under zealotry
Oh, I've tried finding a way to fit that in without Prism Guardian, but I couldn't. It's just too crap for the 50% mana it is reserving. I found Aspect of the Spider a much better option, all things considered. Maybe with PG Zealotry can be incorporated into the mine LL build, but without it it's definitely something that should be dropped...
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X to crit multi under precision
After that, any of the discipline ones are decent, not amazing. The increased cold damage on hatred also isnt terrible.
Completely forgot about the multi one, sounds good. I just want to try pushing 100 on this character without going with the pure breachstones, so any extra tankiness from the Disc mods would be very, very welcome.
Ah got cha, figured you were using PG with hatred in the setup. spider is much better than zealtory if not running it.
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Posted byBeerLeagueon Jan 23, 2020, 12:38:05 PM
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Hey, have a new doubt.
What about use in weapons gem setup, one with
CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb
and another with
CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall
EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.
And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.
Last edited by NGXIS on Jan 23, 2020, 5:19:51 PM
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Posted byNGXISon Jan 23, 2020, 3:32:35 PM
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Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.
Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.
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Posted byBob123akaon Jan 23, 2020, 6:29:45 PM
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Hey, have a new doubt.
What about use in weapons gem setup, one with
CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb
and another with
CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall
EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.
And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.
The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.
As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.
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Posted byBeerLeagueon Jan 23, 2020, 8:04:57 PM
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Thinking of trying this bad boy out, have about 120ex to spare and this looks super fun map clearing and single damage isn't so bad compared to IS while being a bit beefy since CoC tends to be kinda squishy unless you got super tanky which makes there single target balls.
Would ideal route be to get +2 shavs/ helm icicle dmg 40% enchant with res and high ES/ shaper elder ring combo/machine w/ crit enchant/ Boots with high ES , res/prism for the extra DPS.
That is correct, the crit multi hell is better though.
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Posted byBeerLeagueon Jan 23, 2020, 8:05:51 PM
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Hey, have a new doubt.
What about use in weapons gem setup, one with
CWDT + Steelskin/IC + Frost bomb
and another with
CWDT + ??? + Frostbite/Cold snap/Frost wall
EDIT: I forgot there is no point to have two CWDT with IC-Steelskin, but i'm interested to know if anyway would be useful to cast two of these cold skills when we receive damage.
And my second doubt, is: If I can get a gloves with Enfeeble/Temporal Chains on hit, would be better to replace Blasphemy+Enfeeble and use another aura? I, for example, buy one with Temporal Chains + Despair on hit (double corrupt), but I forgot that I can only use ONE curse at a time (too many mechanics sometimes confuse me LOL), so I'll see what I do with them because I don't know how double curse works in gameplay if I don't have the Whispers of Doom node.
The first setup will work, I’ve used it before it isn’t terrible.
As for Curse on hit, we don’t hit, so it doesn’t work. Doesn’t apply with mines.
Mines doesn't count as hit? Holy... I'll never understand this game.
So, what you think about Frostbite, Cold snap, Frost wall? Can be useful for this build?
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Posted byNGXISon Jan 23, 2020, 9:57:43 PM
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