3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

Can sumbody plz explain why if I put Vaal Discipline or Discipline in Victario's Influence and cast it - it won't work aint giving me any ES.
If I put it inside other items it works
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JCOH35 wrote:


I actually completely respec'd my entire tree to CI just out of curiosity. Using 2 energy from within jewels I was able to make an insanely powerful version but the problem was spirit offering not working.

Overall it was all worth it b/c that experiment was what led me to my current/final skill tree and my 18k ehp /12k ES.

https://imgur.com/bAbJOxO

and still instantly kill endgame bosses or phase them, I love it, but its not an insanely fast mapper like alot of the more skilled players prefer.


don't need spirit offering if you are full ES though. you get better regen from permanent zombie leech to your ES via ghost reaver and soul strike lets you start your ES regen super quickly if you opt for the bow version

main reason is just being immune to chaos. you are basically unkillable with 15k+ ES, leech and CI

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Respeck wrote:
Got my hands on a 320% minion damage increase jewel, had to change my tree around a lot. In POB my zombies do around 160k per zombie, which is close to what I had before. In the Misc tab in game, my minion damage modifer is 650%.

Not sure how my zombie damage in POB is so low, gonna try this out and report back.


you need to manually add 320% minion damage to a jewel. PoB doesn't support timeless jewels.

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Des1k wrote:
Can sumbody plz explain why if I put Vaal Discipline or Discipline in Victario's Influence and cast it - it won't work aint giving me any ES.
If I put it inside other items it works


you probably have generosity linked, so you do not receive the aura buff
ye right you are feel so lame to forget this :) thx
I don't feel the need for the 320% increased minion damage from the jewel I bought.

If anyone's looking for hubris that allows for 4, 80% minion damage nodes I have one for sale in meta league. Send me a PM or message me in game at Zaynsummons

thx
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crazypearce wrote:
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JCOH35 wrote:


I actually completely respec'd my entire tree to CI just out of curiosity. Using 2 energy from within jewels I was able to make an insanely powerful version but the problem was spirit offering not working.

Overall it was all worth it b/c that experiment was what led me to my current/final skill tree and my 18k ehp /12k ES.

https://imgur.com/bAbJOxO

and still instantly kill endgame bosses or phase them, I love it, but its not an insanely fast mapper like alot of the more skilled players prefer.


don't need spirit offering if you are full ES though. you get better regen from permanent zombie leech to your ES via ghost reaver and soul strike lets you start your ES regen super quickly if you opt for the bow version

main reason is just being immune to chaos. you are basically unkillable with 15k+ ES, leech and CI



Have you tried it? I also wanted to try a CI version of this build, however, not using the maul for a bow seems like DPS will be bad but maybe I’m wrong?
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xWillz wrote:


Have you tried it? I also wanted to try a CI version of this build, however, not using the maul for a bow seems like DPS will be bad but maybe I’m wrong?


dps is basically the same. you lose some dps passive nodes from the tree but gain 4 or 5 extra zombies depending on how good your lethal pride is.

the weapon is pretty much the same as a 2h too.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Metamorph/rPlr877HQ

all the same mods on a bow.

and no i haven't tried it yet, don't have enough currency. you need 4 brawns with 6% str, low reduced intel. you need rings with high str, one with high int, res, ES, mana etc. but all the other gear is basically the same so you don't need to swap everything to make it work. so 15ex on weapon and 6ex on rings. but you also need a clarity watchers eye to reach 13k+, i wouldn't play it without it.

https://pastebin.com/GMj30mQ2

here is a PoB of what i put together with my current gear, plus brawns, rings and weapon. more expensive rings with %ES can get you to 17.5k+ ES

Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Jan 25, 2020, 7:29:54 PM
Nvm, Crazy's PoB looks much more interesting.

See I have the 50ex watchers eye this build would need.

What is the deal with the bow, why is that required and can you elaborate on the rings, why 1 requires high INT etc.

This looks intriguing to the point I may drop 15ex on a bow and give it a go.
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Jan 25, 2020, 7:45:24 PM
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JCOH35 wrote:
Ok, idk if this would work, but if I was to try the CI in rl and apply the ghost reaver method I would try this;

https://imgur.com/gUrwrkH

And then I would use for my 2 annointments; Void Barrier and Gravepact. My major concern would be the overall strength, I dont have this loaded into PoB, this is just something ive theorycrafted in the passive tree. My guess though is with x3 efficient training jewels in the sockets I have highlited blue, you might be around 1,100.

The other thing you would need to do is add an Energy Within jewel to the empty jewel socket on the far right hand side of the tree.


CI won't really work without stacking strength. you just won't have enough ES. that tree you posted gives 1200 str, 470k dps per zombie and 9.5k ES. the tree from my PoB gives 2700+ str, 500k dps per zombie and 17k ES. going CI means you don't need any life nodes which makes stacking pure strength incredibly easy. just not sure how strong the zombie leech feels. because in theory 21 zombies dealing 500k dps each and each leeching 2% sounds insane
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JCOH35 wrote:
Nvm, Crazy's PoB looks much more interesting.

See I have the 50ex watchers eye this build would need.

What is the deal with the bow, why is that required and can you elaborate on the rings, why 1 requires high INT etc.

This looks intriguing to the point I may drop 15ex on a bow and give it a go.


bow lets you use soul strike which is nice for starting ES regen. you can use a 2h still and it's fine, you lose 1k ES, faster start of regen but you can use cyclone with desecrate and an offering.

you need high int on a ring to meet requirements. you have very little on the tree as it's all converted to strength and with brawns reduced intelligence you won't meet gem requirements without it on a ring.
Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Jan 25, 2020, 8:02:16 PM

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