3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

The more I play this the more I'm contemplating going full ES. The reason is that chaos degens straight up nuke you as you have no life regen via geofris and it feels super unreliable relying on Baron leech with a pretty small life pool.

Now full ES has a couple of interesting options. You can go bow with soul strike and manually cast offering or stay with a 2h. You lose zombie dps because of tree pathing but you gain 4 extra zombies so it balances out. You also run a double 6l for skellies as you only fit 3 auras. But the main benefit here is reaching 15k+ ES, being immune to chaos, and getting Baron leech to your whole EHP.

But the downside is more expensive gear. So I need to farm a liitle more before I can try this out

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lunaticwoda wrote:

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Mubbsy wrote:

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lunaticwoda wrote:

Let me rephrase... So the 114k vs his 240k or whatever is with no check boxes on both of us. Sure if I add my charges n stuff I do reach 220k but he still has a 100k diff without any boxes on either POB

Which of the builds are you looking at. Without anything clicked in config the PoB links from main page show the following dps:

Saqawals - 191.4k
Speed - 129.7k
Geofris (Tanky) - 110.9k

And you seem to be using geofris setup for the most part with the stampede addition so your damage is gonna be around that 110.9k, over it in fact.

Just pull his toon up in POB hes over 200k.

As for jewels I have 2 efficient trainings left and right of start. Above start I have a lethal pride. (have 3 hubrises but still rolling them). As I said I am deep into min max land. So I dont see how he can have such a massive damage boost unless its something wrong in POB

I never check boxes in POB. I just play the game and see what feels better and does better. POB can be very misleading.

I use the fork of POB which shows impale damage. With nothing checked I'm at over 300k damage per zombie. And that's without adding in things like my 240% increased damage elegant hubris etc cause I CBF manually doing that in POB. But if do do that and click calcs and max things out I'm at over 1million DPS per zombie.

The POB I put in guide used lethal pride though as I figured that's the more easy and balanced option for the majority of people. I use an elegant hubris in reality.

Regarding your setup are your gems leveled and active in skill section? That would be main source of DPS if tree and gear is same. And make sure you have raise zombie selected when checking DPS?

the "balanced" setup is real fun. but... ive sirus8 down with five portals left with tank setup. now i fckin up 4 times with no portals left :) note for me... switch back and respecc before next sirus^^

worst fight layout ive ever seen in poe :(

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Mubbsy wrote:

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lunaticwoda wrote:

Just pull his toon up in POB hes over 200k.

As for jewels I have 2 efficient trainings left and right of start. Above start I have a lethal pride. (have 3 hubrises but still rolling them). As I said I am deep into min max land. So I dont see how he can have such a massive damage boost unless its something wrong in POB

Which link are you using for his active characters PoB? I don't see it listed anywhere, but based on his profile, he's using the saqawal build with some changes in gems, which already starts at 191.k dps for the listed one. And he has some changed passives for extra damage and less survivability as he's stated before.

And when I load his charcter in PoB (Brunowa_FREEZE) it shows 222.2k dmg, as he is using the build that does at least 191.k dps with some tweaks, so that all makes sense.

You're using the tanky build and wondering why you're not getting dps build numbers.

To call it the "tanky" build is dumb he literally just renamed it to that. And the reality is the difference is just switching from Geof to Vic. No way in hell you are gaining over 100k Zombie DPS in POB by just using That. Also in his as you would call "DPS" build he still uses 7 step which is inferior to Stampede

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lunaticwoda wrote:

You're using the tanky build and wondering why y
To call it the "tanky" build is dumb he literally just renamed it to that. And the reality is the difference is just switching from Geof to Vic. No way in hell you are gaining over 100k Zombie DPS in POB by just using That. Also in his as you would call "DPS" build he still uses 7 step which is inferior to Stampede

Victarios is about DPS and SPEED.

Stampedes slow you down dramatically. You're capped at 150% movespeed. With 7 league steps we get over 300% movespeed.

Going twice as fast equals twice as many maps and twice as much currency made. That's why it's a speed farming build... For generating massive currency quickly.

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crazypearce wrote:

The more I play this the more I'm contemplating going full ES. The reason is that chaos degens straight up nuke you as you have no life regen via geofris and it feels super unreliable relying on Baron leech with a pretty small life pool.

Now full ES has a couple of interesting options. You can go bow with soul strike and manually cast offering or stay with a 2h. You lose zombie dps because of tree pathing but you gain 4 extra zombies so it balances out. You also run a double 6l for skellies as you only fit 3 auras. But the main benefit here is reaching 15k+ ES, being immune to chaos, and getting Baron leech to your whole EHP.

But the downside is more expensive gear. So I need to farm a liitle more before I can try this out

I actually completely respec'd my entire tree to CI just out of curiosity. Using 2 energy from within jewels I was able to make an insanely powerful version but the problem was spirit offering not working.

Overall it was all worth it b/c that experiment was what led me to my current/final skill tree and my 18k ehp /12k ES.

https://imgur.com/bAbJOxO

and still instantly kill endgame bosses or phase them, I love it, but its not an insanely fast mapper like alot of the more skilled players prefer.

Hi guys! Going the new build, and getting there step by step ($$$) but i just have 10 mana reserved, so cant use withering step.. anyone know why?
Cheers!

Got my hands on a 320% minion damage increase jewel, had to change my tree around a lot. In POB my zombies do around 160k per zombie, which is close to what I had before. In the Misc tab in game, my minion damage modifer is 650%.

Not sure how my zombie damage in POB is so low, gonna try this out and report back.

zombies broken, killed sirus 8 (2 portals left) I play with 2-300 ping with constant spikes.

I normally get friends to kill him for me due to the lag but thought id give it a go. Using the new balanced build. Need to get corrupting blood implicit on a jewel and a clarity watchers eye and im good.

Who ever mentioned to get the hatred auls amy is a life saver. Definitely works, dont need the 40ex pride one at all.

Anyone know if we lose the %less dmg taken from flesh and stone if linked with generosety?