3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Elorathiel wrote:
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Nchi wrote:
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Elorathiel wrote:


Hi! Well, firstly. We don't have anywhere we can fit Avian because we aren't using a two-hand weapon and our rings are packed full with no room for avian so the point is immediately rendered moot. Second point, we are not running Saqawals so no enhanced Avian. Pride is just the better choice for us. I'd love to fit flesh and stone/maim AND pride but we just don't have points for the mana reservation.


I got it all with like 7% left lol! AND should get 12 minions via level 34 zombies, NO CLUSTERS YET only level 88 and still might be able to get 1500 str maybe??? Just the level 4 empower for 12 and clusters might get 13 with those wall of muscles??

https://pastebin.com/Aj9vR60r


You're comparing apples to oranges, my man. We are running our cluster stacking build and you are running a 0 cluster old school build with the full aura wheel invested in. It's hard to make comparisons when the builds are so different. But I can tell you what even with all your auras, our build will walk all over yours in both eHP and DPS. There is a reason why clusters are so popular now. ;p



you probably missed that I was running low tier build as a point before, now I am opening up my build to clusters and 6L etc. Its all the same build in the end this is just pre clusters?

Here is where I am heading, 13 zom https://pastebin.com/n58scHWw
VMS makes up for losing that ES maybe? definitely will be more squishy I don't think the 5k armor itself goes far, 1k on MS and 3k on VMS

https://pastebin.com/qw4svwZ1 2.1 mil dps!!

I don't think its anything too crazy even yet!! See the light my friend. 13 zombies is back, I will just trade a ton of ES for no freeze off belt, if I had that gg rare belt then it would be easy!
Last edited by Nchi#1907 on Apr 3, 2020, 10:07:08 PM
More damage is stronger than increased damage.

Maim with Increased damage taken is one the same multiplier as vulnerability and many others like it. While Pride is a more damage taken.

Think it as of as this increased is X + X adding more increased just adds an X and more ix Y so that means you get (X+X)Y

Flesh and Stone with maim support is 30% increased
Vulnerability is 50% increase
war banner 11% increase
pride 19-39% more
So here we the increase here (30+11+50)x19=so 108% increased damage to taken 128% at full pride.

If its just pride vs flesh and stone you have in this example 11+50+30 vs (11+50)x 1.19 // 1.39. So you have 91% vs 71% to 84%
The more increase damage taken you have the better pride becomes.

Flesh with support does take 2 gemslots vs pprides 1 so that has to be taken into account as well.

Last edited by Linus1985#5731 on Apr 3, 2020, 10:10:16 PM
There is "Increased #% Damage", "more #% damage", "Increased #% damage taken" and "More #% damage taken".

Pride is in the More damage taken category while Flesh is in the Increased #% damage taken category.
Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL
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xj20x wrote:
Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL

idk about the staff but i know i spent over 20k chrome just getting the color sockets right on the speedrun bow lol. vorici said it should have taken me 41 attempts with 2r1b recipe.....it was wrong
Last edited by damoose222#6070 on Apr 4, 2020, 12:26:34 AM
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damoose222 wrote:
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xj20x wrote:
Good luck crafting that staff, they're literally like 25 exalts for a reason, because they're next to impossible to do. but the old 1,2,3 how do to it seems so easy right? LUL

idk about the staff but i know i spent over 20k chrome just getting the color sockets right on the speedrun bow lol. vorici said it should have taken me 41 attempts with 2r1b recipe.....it was wrong





Yea bro, this build is cool and all but it got nurfed hard AF and the prices of the shit for it are insane because it's the most pop build top of list and the League takes major advantage, you can't do end game content with the budget equipment.
HALP!
Played this build last league and crushed it. Loss in dps is not too noticeable yet but I am far from optimized in Delirium. But my zombies are getting melted in fog and in rare cases to beyond mobs. Zombies are res capped and running Discipline. I had Determination up as well but they still get nuked. What am I missing? Thx
2000 Strength finally! Unlocked that 13th zombie. Had to make some sacrifices here and there. Here is a video going over my build/stats/gear.

https://youtu.be/ziZL-ufiFog

Please note the original build is still the same. This is only for extreme people who want to push to 2000 strength. It has minor adjustments to allow me to hit 2000 strength and is specific to my build and my lethal pride alone.


Last edited by Elorathiel#6930 on Apr 4, 2020, 2:32:58 AM
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Elorathiel wrote:
2000 Strength finally! Unlocked that 13th zombie. Had to make some sacrifices here and there. Here is a video going over my build/stats/gear.

https://youtu.be/ziZL-ufiFog

Please note the original build is still the same. This is only for extreme people who want to push to 2000 strength. It has minor adjustments to allow me to hit 2000 strength and is specific to my build and my lethal pride alone.




you didn't link chest btw, and level 34 zombies gets +1 too, so I think you found 14!!! is there room to push more?? no way we can stretch 500 with basically just gloves to work with...

But +2 chest gets another zombie basically!
Last edited by Nchi#1907 on Apr 4, 2020, 2:24:26 AM
I got a good weapon but i still get 1 shot by T13 delirium mobs even when i don't stop.

I have 5k hp 2.4k es
all resist 110%, chaos 75%
Str 1063
2x efficient training
Large cluster x1: Feasting Fiends, Rotten Claws, Vicious bite
Medium cluster x1: Dread March, Hulking Corpses
Smallcluster x1: Wall of muscle

2x Carnage chieftan, 1x host cheiftan, 1x merveil's retainer

zombies have 82% chance to impale
they do individually 169,511 dps

i think on the defensive side i have
39% phy damage red
3% evade
92 ES regen per second

Not sure what i am lacking. can someone please spare 2 mins and provide a suggesstion how to improve survivablity? i already know i need an enlighten 4 to run Discipline so more ES but that would make my ES from 2.4k to 3k, still doesn't explain how can i get 1 shot by T13 delirium mobs..

Really hate Maven as a boss and its mechanics! pls give us something cool like Elder/Shaper

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