[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

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DesDeCero wrote:

Which better?

1)

2)

1 -> base damage Tooltip says VD 53.155 dps (but obv. i have 1 extra frenzy charge playing -> 4% more damage and 4% attack speed & cast speed)

2 -> base damage Tooltip says VD 58.097 dps and this one has better stats.

Thx.

Spell crit chance are better.

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fakemagicwaffle wrote:

You are probably doing something wrong. If I could see your build, maybe I could tell.

I claered t16 map easily with a CwC 5L staff and it was a breeze. I don't think the bug on reddit affect us, I never have more than maximum 20 volatile dead alive. If you have problem against boss, remove Herald of ash and use anger. Anger gives more single target damage but less clear speed but I don't think we lack clear speed in this build. Considering current boss meta, Herald of ash is bad because there's no monster at all to explode on the boss. It's still good for metamorph.

Totally possible (probable even) it's on my end. But I've looked over everything multiple times and just can't place why it feels so inconsistent. Appreciate the offer, but think I'm going to step away from it for a moment. It performed fantastically through ~85% of the content and allowed me to farm up some solid currency. Going to come back with some fresh eyes once I get a chance to work on some crafting.

Having some really bad experience in t14+ maps. Damage is starting to fall off real hard and I just randomly explode vs meta bosses. Anything look off at all or anything I should look to upgrade first.

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Pancakezx wrote:

Having some really bad experience in t14+ maps. Damage is starting to fall off real hard and I just randomly explode vs meta bosses. Anything look off at all or anything I should look to upgrade first.

First, get Hypothermia over combustion support for Volatile dead.
Second, remove the belt and get a good rare belt. If your body armour doesn't have +25% offering effect, you will be hitting yourself more than you are regenerating ES.

Always get life over ES. More life = more regen from spirit offering
Try Anger instead of Herald of ash for more single target DPS.

Try to find a elder staff wih CwC, 5L and spell damage. Depending of stats, it will be better than 6L Martyr of Innocence.

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fakemagicwaffle wrote:

First, get Hypothermia over combustion support for Volatile dead.
Second, remove the belt and get a good rare belt. If your body armour doesn't have +25% offering effect, you will be hitting yourself more than you are regenerating ES.

Always get life over ES. More life = more regen from spirit offering
Try Anger instead of Herald of ash for more single target DPS.

Try to find a elder staff wih CwC, 5L and spell damage. Depending of stats, it will be better than 6L Martyr of Innocence.

Thanks for the help. what would I use in the extra 4link when i remove the offerings from my boots?

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Pancakezx wrote:

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fakemagicwaffle wrote:

First, get Hypothermia over combustion support for Volatile dead.
Second, remove the belt and get a good rare belt. If your body armour doesn't have +25% offering effect, you will be hitting yourself more than you are regenerating ES.

Always get life over ES. More life = more regen from spirit offering
Try Anger instead of Herald of ash for more single target DPS.

Try to find a elder staff wih CwC, 5L and spell damage. Depending of stats, it will be better than 6L Martyr of Innocence.

Thanks for the help. what would I use in the extra 4link when i remove the offerings from my boots?

You can use the offering later if you want when you get a good body armour.

I like CWDT (lvl1) + Wave Of Conviction + Purifying Flame + Combustion.

Combustion support there (instead of linked with your Volatile Dead) will still reduce ennemy fire resist but leave let you socket something else for extra damage. Wave of conviction also reduce ennemy fire resist. Purifying flame leave consecrated ground which is nice.

Here's my gem setup. Keep in my I do use the belt considering I have a good body armour but I don't have anything Aspect of the spider related.

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fakemagicwaffle wrote:

First, get Hypothermia over combustion support for Volatile dead.
Second, remove the belt and get a good rare belt. If your body armour doesn't have +25% offering effect, you will be hitting yourself more than you are regenerating ES.

Always get life over ES. More life = more regen from spirit offering
Try Anger instead of Herald of ash for more single target DPS.

Try to find a elder staff wih CwC, 5L and spell damage. Depending of stats, it will be better than 6L Martyr of Innocence.

Hypothermia is fine, but only effects enemies near our corpses. Inspiration is preferable for the extra crit chance as well.

Swapping Herald of Ash for Anger doesn't exactly work. HOA is 25% Reserve, anger is 50%. Obviously Anger is going to be more damage.

Shaper staff* for CWC. As it turns out it's now very difficult to get a staff that outperforms Martyr by anything significant. Looking at +2-3 Fire Spell + CWC to get something stronger for most people. You will of course have to go into POB to test this for yourself as other factors play a part.

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Pancakezx wrote:

Having some really bad experience in t14+ maps. Damage is starting to fall off real hard and I just randomly explode vs meta bosses. Anything look off at all or anything I should look to upgrade first.

Easy fixes:
Replace life craft on chest with "Gain 9-10% of Max Life as Extra MAx Energy Shield" This will give you roughly 700-800 extra ES. Very helpful buffer vs 1-shots.

Replace Combustion in chest with Inspiration or Controlled Destruction.

If you're having trouble sustaining, drop the leash. With the ES on hit you're probably fine though.

Harder to implement improvements:
Get a chest with +25% Effect of Offerings. This will boost your recovery and defenses from Spirit and Bone Offerings. In general this will smooth things out for you. The issue here is covering your resistances as you get a lot from your chest. Likely means you'll have to get all new jewelry and that gets pretty expensive. So, my suggestion would be to start trying to upgrade your rings/amulet to be able to cover your resistances with having none on your chest.

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TrafficLi9HT wrote:

Do you realiably get your power charges with your high block chance? Cause I dont see assassins mark or power charge on crit in your current PoB. If thats the case, then could ditch the gem from my 7-link (even this multimodded, non slammed staff is worse than martyr apparently, wasted 10 ex...) and get some more dmg. Also, how did you get that insane amulet? Did you buy it and crafted the spider on it?

I have PCoC on my Ball Lightning CWDT Setup.

The staff situation is little strange. On my current character it'd be very hard to improve from Martyr. A standard CWC+2Mods+Multimod is worse. However the same staff gives 30% more damage than Martyr when I apply it to my character from Blight. Likely has to do with how good the rest of your gear is in the end. I suggest reffering to your own PoB to figure out how good of a staff you'll need to beat Martyr.

As for my amulet:


I bought it, added the aspect to it, anointed it, crafted the mana on it, and the used Jorgin T2 bench in Syndicate to get the final outcome. :D

On a side note for everybody:
I'm dealing with some health issues/sickness so I'm not going to be able to get to everyone right away.

I don't have the budget for animate guardian, so ill use raise spectre, what are the gem links for raise spectre? and do I use it on the weapon swap?

Guys need help !! ASAP what i'm doing wrong with summoning volatile dead ? i can summ them only when i get hit so bosses is so freaking hard because they shoot once or twice and i'm dead :((
Any idea's ? still looking for good boots and chest .

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sn3kox wrote:

Any idea's ?

Gloves.

Use this belt only with right body, not tabula. Boots for spider aspect.
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