[3.25] Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - Fast, tanky, fun to play

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Wissle wrote:

Got some questions:
How come the wither setup in the gloves stays level 1 (Wither + Spell Totem + Multiple Totems)? Seems like the totem insta-die to everything like that?

Why the use of blink arrow instead of any instant movement Dash or so?

The wither totems should not stay at level 1. Get those as high as possible. Invest in a 21/23 Wither gem when you have the chance. This skill is the most important skill against bosses.


If you use Withering Step, it has the key word "blink". That means it shares a cool down with other blink skills like Dash. Ironically Blink Arrow does not have blink as a key word and as such can be used with Withering Step.

If you don't use Withering Step, you can use Dash.

Levels on wither are not doing anything, you can check the gem info. The qual is big, but level is not and its adding unnecessary int requirements. I would def not recommend leveling wither past the int requirements of e.g infused channeling.

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Wissle wrote:

Got some questions:
How come the wither setup in the gloves stays level 1 (Wither + Spell Totem + Multiple Totems)? Seems like the totem insta-die to everything like that?

Why the use of blink arrow instead of any instant movement Dash or so?

The wither totems should not stay at level 1. Get those as high as possible. Invest in a 21/23 Wither gem when you have the chance. This skill is the most important skill against bosses.


If you use Withering Step, it has the key word "blink". That means it shares a cool down with other blink skills like Dash. Ironically Blink Arrow does not have blink as a key word and as such can be used with Withering Step.

If you don't use Withering Step, you can use Dash.

Levels on wither are not doing anything, you can check the gem info. The qual is big, but level is not and its adding unnecessary int requirements. I would def not recommend leveling wither past the int requirements of e.g infused channeling.

I would not say leveling Wither is doing nothing.

Level 1 wither reduces the boss speed 30%.
Level 20 wither reduces the boss speed 36%.

The AOE also is greater at higher levels but this is fairly meaningless besides needing to be a little less accurate where you place the totems in a hectic fight.

I do agree about the Int requirements. If this is an issue then not leveling past your next highest int requirement makes good sense to me.

Hi!

Im playing the build and struggle a bit with survivability and Boss damage. If i havent mathed it wrong im sitting at 3M Shaper DPS. I can do most Bosses (havent tried uber versions tho) without a problem. Sirus gives me a bit of a headache. Any tips how to fight him properly? His second Phase gets me everytime.
If anyone could give me advice on what to upgrade (and possibly how to do it myself as ps4 trading prices are ridiculous) i would be grateful!

Edit: ive got a hunter influenced onyx amy and lion pelt in stash. currently trying to roll them decently. its harder then i thought tho. Is the Helmet enchant that valuable? Ive bought the best rolled with the right enchant just to get it, but the stats arent that great. If i want the enchant on my hunter lion pelt i probably need to enchant it myself.

My PoB: https://pastebin.com/z86wmaQY
Im Res capped btw. I get some Res from the timeless jewel. (Its not rolled good tho, im only getting divine flesh from it atm)

Thanks alot for your tips, its not ailments im dying to its big hits i think, i changed my belt to chaos res so i got 54% now and also changed the flask setup and added quality on the flasks i also got remove bleed and freeze now.

Ill do the amulet belt and rings next.

Damn i also just realized that my immortal call was 2 levels too high and did nothing!

How or on what item could i get added fire damage?

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Xiarrah wrote:

How or on what item could i get added fire damage?

Most of us get it from an Abyssal Jewel in a Stygian Vise. At least i do it that way.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Z0ld3n wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

The difference between an Infused Channeling 20/20 and a 21/23 is almost 7 ex right now.

Do you guys feel that it is worth that cost to move to the 21/23?

If you are min-maxing sure it's 1% more dmg after all, if not i think you can get better upgrades for 7ex.

Do you see anything obvious I should upgrade? I have about 15ex right now saved.

https://pastebin.com/efNrrWLh

I think you should be able to switch boots + belt (even try for +chaos dmg belt) for more resistances (to free up ring slot, don't forget quality on belt) and get another Circle of Nostalgia (15 ex should be enough for all that), than i would switch amulet for one with chaos damage multiplier. Also i suggest to get Divine Flesh on tree, it really will help you with survivability especially when using Darkscorn. Speaking of which, get 28 or 30% quality (betrayal or beastcrafting) on it (also make it 6 slots, its free gem slot after all)

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flmrauru wrote:

Hi!

Im playing the build and struggle a bit with survivability and Boss damage. If i havent mathed it wrong im sitting at 3M Shaper DPS. I can do most Bosses (havent tried uber versions tho) without a problem. Sirus gives me a bit of a headache. Any tips how to fight him properly? His second Phase gets me everytime.
If anyone could give me advice on what to upgrade (and possibly how to do it myself as ps4 trading prices are ridiculous) i would be grateful!

Edit: ive got a hunter influenced onyx amy and lion pelt in stash. currently trying to roll them decently. its harder then i thought tho. Is the Helmet enchant that valuable? Ive bought the best rolled with the right enchant just to get it, but the stats arent that great. If i want the enchant on my hunter lion pelt i probably need to enchant it myself.

My PoB: https://pastebin.com/z86wmaQY
Im Res capped btw. I get some Res from the timeless jewel. (Its not rolled good tho, im only getting divine flesh from it atm)

I think most important thing for Sirus fight is stay at melee range and keep moving (i always try to be behind him) as much as you can. As for upgrades i have no idea about ps4 economy, what is easy to get/cheap (crafting mats etc) so i won't give you bad advices :P You can definitely get quality up on bow and get Atziri Promise flask yourself (from atziri ofc). As for Scourge Arrow enchant yes it is huge especially for boss fights, just don't forget to channel to max (attack speed (frenzy) helps here a lot)

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thedeathbeam wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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thedeathbeam wrote:

The wither totems should not stay at level 1. Get those as high as possible. Invest in a 21/23 Wither gem when you have the chance. This skill is the most important skill against bosses.


If you use Withering Step, it has the key word "blink". That means it shares a cool down with other blink skills like Dash. Ironically Blink Arrow does not have blink as a key word and as such can be used with Withering Step.

If you don't use Withering Step, you can use Dash.

Levels on wither are not doing anything, you can check the gem info. The qual is big, but level is not and its adding unnecessary int requirements. I would def not recommend leveling wither past the int requirements of e.g infused channeling.

I would not say leveling Wither is doing nothing.

Level 1 wither reduces the boss speed 30%.
Level 20 wither reduces the boss speed 36%.

The AOE also is greater at higher levels but this is fairly meaningless besides needing to be a little less accurate where you place the totems in a hectic fight.

I do agree about the Int requirements. If this is an issue then not leveling past your next highest int requirement makes good sense to me.

I see! Thanks, guys.

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Z0ld3n wrote:

I think you should be able to switch boots + belt (even try for +chaos dmg belt) for more resistances (to free up ring slot, don't forget quality on belt) and get another Circle of Nostalgia (15 ex should be enough for all that), than i would switch amulet for one with chaos damage multiplier. Also i suggest to get Divine Flesh on tree, it really will help you with survivability especially when using Darkscorn. Speaking of which, get 28 or 30% quality (betrayal or beastcrafting) on it (also make it 6 slots, its free gem slot after all)

Thank you for the advice. I made some of these changes

1) Got 30% on the bow (that was easy)

2) Changed boots, belt and ring. Belt has Chaos damage, boots have better speed. Lost a lot of life switching out my ring for a second circle but that was to be expected


After these changes:

-Shaper Damage improved from 4.1m to 5.2m (excellent improvement)
-Health dropped from 5700 to 5300 (will have to see how this effects me)
-Resists stay capped as they were.

I still have 9ex left to spend.

I will look into amulet next.

I am trying to figure out how to change my tree with out losing either a ton of damage and/or life to get to the sockets for Divine flesh.

You can use thread of hope to free up some points (you will lose around 300k dps) and if you did get 6 sockets on bow i would use Blood Rage there. Also i understand why you are using Dendrobate but I don't like it, being able to get -15 mana scourge arrow allows you to reserve more mana which will bring you more dmg later on, also rare chest gives you way more defences (HP obviously and you can try to get phys dmg converted to ele/chaos mod which is huge when using divine flesh) and frees up Mana Leech node on tree.

Is it worth to use Bottled Faith in this build? PoB says we have almost 50% more damage with it.