Shadow - [3.7] Cyclone CwC Blade Vortex CI Trickster - Forum

" Nekikool wrote: Hello there, So I wanted to share my own variation of this build :). First of all, thanks for the early theorycraft, it helped me to follow some way to go, I declined your build from your PoB. First, we are playing CI, I can't imagine to play CI without Incandescent Hearth, it just negate 25% of ele damage, plus the chaos as extra damage on top, this way I don't needed the "Escape Artiste" ascendancy (no evasion on body armor, still stun immune with Cyclone), I prefered "Patient Reaper", it give me a ton shit of regen into pack, coupled with Energy leech support in my setup it's really strong when in the middle of packs, even with 2-3 rare arround. I also prefered to play HoI + Cold to fire support than HoA + Hypotermia, still got chill/freeze/shatter and damage are the same for both setup so, my gems are now leveled, I'll keep this, but I think I'll find an enchanted helmet with aura reservation to add HoA soon. Early game I used a rare staff with 100%+ increased cold damage, was better than every unique you can find, and from far cheaper, and Hrimmsorrow as gloves, gives a really good amount of damage. So I don't know how to link my whole stuff, feel free to check my char if you want to, I guess that I have many way to improve it but I'm actually farming red map without big issues (still one shoted by randoms legions rare, like everyone I guess), but damage and tankyness feels ok atm, just need to scale and improve all of this the next days / weeks :). Incadescent is definitely nice, but I find its ES way too low, and it has no evasion, so it synergizes poorly with Trickster so I mostly avoided using it. But your setup looks pretty nice. And yeah, HoI is way better for clear than HoA, but HoA damage is just too good so I keep avoiding it. Tbh, I think best DPS for us is taking Herald of Agony (ironically) because the poison DPS we get from it is pretty insane. " aharm1991 wrote: I have been running the staff variant of this build since day 1 and have had no problems at all, soon as you pick up some staff dmg nodes + Disintegrator it becomes a blender. Only deaths came early due to bad flask setups and no CWDT setup lmao. Am i better off getting a 6L carnal over Carcass? honestly prefer getting the AOE so thinking of buying a 6L Carcass. Thanks for the guide its been alot of fun so far. Well, if you feel like you have enough ES then go for Carcass, it is definitely nice for clearing and for damage, but the ES/eva bonus from it is pretty poor, sadly. " shadowragex wrote: i restarted my char after rippin decided to roll with Divine ire untill INcreased AOE was big enough for cyclone cwc bc to be good seems to work pretty darn well Yep, skills like Storm Burst and Divine Ire work really well in this build too because the build scales them really really hard as well :d My builds: https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam My site: https://mapsofexile.com/ Last edited by thedeathbeam on Jun 12, 2019, 10:35:51 AM	Posted by thedeathbeam on Jun 12, 2019, 10:34:47 AM Quote this Post
how best to craft body armor on crit?	Posted by Hesor13 on Jun 12, 2019, 11:57:00 AM Quote this Post
1. Ebers Helmet BiS? Or can a rare be better? 2. why not shavronnes for CI and pain attument? this is 30 % more spell dmg?	Posted by ILIAS on Jun 12, 2019, 6:12:44 PM Quote this Post
Enjoying this build in legion thanks.	Posted by Shot_Down on Jun 12, 2019, 7:11:09 PM Quote this Post
" hesor13 wrote: how best to craft body armor on crit? Probably just Dense + Corroded, and possibly Aetheric on top (even though not sure if Aetheric is worth it). " ILIAS wrote: 1. Ebers Helmet BiS? Or can a rare be better? 2. why not shavronnes for CI and pain attument? this is 30 % more spell dmg? Yeah, Eber's is BIS, -20 chaos res and 8% ele as chaos is not something you can find on rare helmet. This build can go LL, but Shavs provide laughable amount of ES, so you will be sacrificing a lot of ES and Evasion to be LL, but damage will ofc rise. My builds: https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam My site: https://mapsofexile.com/	Posted by thedeathbeam on Jun 13, 2019, 4:07:16 AM Quote this Post
hey there, just tried few things in pob. why is the build based on cold/fire? better scaling in late? getting a lot more damage with convert to lightning and ele focus instead of hypothermia and added fire damage, also there are so many nice lightning nodes.	Posted by Philbo_O on Jun 13, 2019, 5:45:00 AM Quote this Post
Really cool build, got uber elder down today :) https://youtu.be/U4cveCIpX3U	Posted by Menidas98 on Jun 13, 2019, 5:55:43 AM Quote this Post
" Philbo_O wrote: hey there, just tried few things in pob. why is the build based on cold/fire? better scaling in late? getting a lot more damage with convert to lightning and ele focus instead of hypothermia and added fire damage, also there are so many nice lightning nodes. There are multiple reasons, 1. With Cold/Fire you can shatter corpses, and as IC was nerfed, this is the most reliable way to be safe against porcs etc. Also, chilling enemies is pretty nice in general 2. The end game damage potential is higher with cold/fire conversion instead of just lightning conversion The difference for 2. is not that big (if not using disintegrator) and also phys->lightning can be a bit cheaper, but it requires also using the gem in links, what adds another semi-mandatory link. I could use Ele Focus as well in this build but, that would mean no shatters and no freezes, so its not really worth. " Menidas98 wrote: Really cool build, got uber elder down today :) https://youtu.be/U4cveCIpX3U Very nice, thanks for sharing :) My builds: https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam My site: https://mapsofexile.com/	Posted by thedeathbeam on Jun 13, 2019, 6:21:55 AM Quote this Post
Hi all, I am pretty much getting there, but still lacking the last few bits, with Watchers eye and Taste of hate. But even if I put them in my PoB, it just becomes 1 million damage. What do I need, and not the least, how the hell, can i improve my shit to get potentially 11 million with my staff? https://pastebin.com/qgUR92Vc ty	Posted by Fuvkalltheshit on Jun 13, 2019, 6:33:27 AM Quote this Post
" Fuvkalltheshit wrote: Hi all, I am pretty much getting there, but still lacking the last few bits, with Watchers eye and Taste of hate. But even if I put them in my PoB, it just becomes 1 million damage. What do I need, and not the least, how the hell, can i improve my shit to get potentially 11 million with my staff? https://pastebin.com/qgUR92Vc ty So, with your current gear, gems at 20/20, Sin's Rebirth, PF + Combustion you are actually at 2.6M DPS (also, you want to gemswap from inc aoe to conc effect on bosses). With 19/0 gems and setup I just said you are at 2.3M DPS. Vaal Blade Vortex would add like another at least 1M burst to that. After getting taste of hate and hatred watcher's eye, your DPS should ramp up, because then you would also switch to Cold to Fire gem for some nice chaos conversion double dipping (because atm, you are mostly dealing just phys and a bit of cold and a bit of fire, what makes the non-chaos to chaos scaling a bit limited). EDIT: Also, the 11M DPS dream for staff is mostly with full shaper/elder set except uniques. My builds: https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam My site: https://mapsofexile.com/ Last edited by thedeathbeam on Jun 13, 2019, 6:57:20 AM	Posted by thedeathbeam on Jun 13, 2019, 6:55:04 AM Quote this Post