[3.7] Cyclone CwC Blade Vortex CI Trickster

Small update (main post is already updated as well):

- Replaced Wave of Conviction with Purifying Flame (similar DPS boost, do not requires using Cold to Fire) and moved it to CWDT setup
- Added Phase Run and linked it with VRF, Inc Duration and Arcane Surge

This bumps us up to 208% movement speed while moving between packs, what is very nice. I originally wanted to self cast PF as well, but, not enough slots on Action Bar, as atm we are at 7 (and that means full because you always want left click move):

- Blade Vortex
- Vaal Blade Vortex
- Vaal Discipline
- Vaal Righteous Fire
- Phase Run
- Leap Slam
- Wither
My builds:
Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2551841
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
Last edited by thedeathbeam on Jun 6, 2019, 5:26:44 AM
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thedeathbeam wrote:

- Replaced Wave of Conviction with Purifying Flame (similar DPS boost, do not requires using Cold to Fire) and moved it to CWDT setup
I would drop this secondary cwdt spell entirely, because the idea of the build is to not get hit as much as possible. I tried WoC cwdt last league on trickster and the real profit of it was negligible, because it almost never proced when I needed it at least a little. Sure, pob shows a dps increase, but I personally think it would suck.
Last edited by BillyofAstora on Jun 6, 2019, 7:47:56 AM
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thedeathbeam wrote:

- Replaced Wave of Conviction with Purifying Flame (similar DPS boost, do not requires using Cold to Fire) and moved it to CWDT setup
I would drop this secondary cwdt spell entirely, because the idea of the build is to not get hit as much as possible. I tried WoC cwdt last league on trickster and the real profit of it was negligible, because it almost never proced when I needed it at least a little. Sure, pob shows a dps increase, but I personally think it would suck.


That is true, but as "melee"-range character, we will still get hit quite often, so the boost will work, and consecrated ground lasts for a while.

The issue is that I can't self cast it because of not enough slots on action bar, what is super annoying, and flame + combustion is big DPS boosts (and idk what else would I use anyway)

EDIT:

Even though, I guess I can just use left-click cyclone

EDIT2:

Or probably not, because that completely invalidates phase run. Honestly, maybe I should just drop fortify, it is quite bad anyway, because Leap Slam without enough AS is terrible.

EDIT3:

Or I can go back to 1 movement skill setup (maybe Charged Dash, I think it can close gaps well?)
My builds:
Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2551841
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
Last edited by thedeathbeam on Jun 6, 2019, 8:18:59 AM
Why don't you just use that setup, and just remove phase run and add wither before dificult encounters? Btw I'm sharing my pastebin later.
It is a damage boost, yes, but theoretically. I think "playing a piano" play style could be quite tiring. And movement between packs is huge. There wouldn't be any problem if you had a fast weapon, so you could just jump fast af. I think phase run is in good place here because of free frenzy charges.

Maybe you shouldn't try to get all the damage in the world, tempting as it may be, and try to make the build more effective generally, and easy to use.

By the way, you should also make a lvl 90 tree as a main build, and make sure it has everything it needs. I guess you understand why. =D

As for the damages, there is a pretty high roof to climb already. Alternatively, you could get another curse going and use ele weakness. I don't know how yet, just an idea. Maybe orb of storms or something like that.
Last edited by BillyofAstora on Jun 6, 2019, 8:43:53 AM
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It is a damage boost, yes, but theoretically. I think "playing a piano" play style could be quite tiring. And movement between packs is huge. There wouldn't be any problem if you had a fast weapon, so you could just jump fast af. I think phase run is in good place here because of free frenzy charges.

Maybe you shouldn't try to get all the damage in the world, tempting as it may be, and try to make the build more effective generally, and easy to use.

By the way, you should also make a lvl 90 tree as a main build, and make sure it has everything it needs. I guess you understand why. =D

As for the damages, there is a pretty high roof to climb already. Alternatively, you could get another curse going and use ele weakness. I don't know how yet, just an idea. Maybe orb of storms or something like that.


Well, the issue is that you will not have fast weapon for Leap Slam, because staves are super slow, so it can't be used for sustained movement, it is just to apply Fortify and jump gaps, and so the secondary movement skill will be very helpful.

I am not trying to get all damage in the world, I am just effectively using all my sockets, without wave/purifying flame and combustion, I will just be throwing some uneffective stuff to CWDT (because I still can't self cast anything because I ran out of action bar slots). I tend to optimize all my builds and take the best gem setups I can.

Also, it is not really a piano game, because you just pop all Vaal Skills and then just trigger fortify and arcane surge every so often.
My builds:
Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2551841
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
Can't anything else be put on shift+click? =/
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Can't anything else be put on shift+click? =/


Shift-click? Well, yeah, but the issue is that having skills on left-click is very inconvenient (e.g just hovering over enemies/grabbing loot while there are enemies nearby can start casting stuff).

Anyway, I decided to go only with 1 movement setup and drop Fortify, and go back to self-cast Wave with Combustion and Surge. I added Culling to movement, so that is basically another damage boost.

Currently movement skill is flame dash, but after PoB will be updated with new gems I will probably replace it with Frostblink.

Updated PoB:

https://pastebin.com/Pwndi3Wb

Maybe I will figure out something that is more consistent with this (tbh, if I had extra slot, I would just use like Vigilant Strike unlinked).
My builds:
Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2551841
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
I tried playing with throat seeker node and snowforged just beneath it, and it looks like it adds a huge amount of scaling.

Like you could get another million of deeps out of it.
Last edited by BillyofAstora on Jun 6, 2019, 9:38:12 AM
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I tried playing with throat seeker node and snowforged just beneath it, and it looks like it adds a huge amount of scaling.

Like you could get another million of deeps out of it.


I know I can, and it's more than 1M, but I will have to sacrifice like 800 ES to do it, not sure if that is worth.
My builds:
Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2551841
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/

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