PS4 trade prices are an UTTER joke

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bi4rep wrote:
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wenpoe wrote:
People are complaining uniques such as Atziri's disfavor is too expansive at 20ex, now let's do some math shall we?

According to Poe.ninja, a full set of mortal fragment cost about 90c in PC legion, Atziri's disfavor is at 900c.

So 90c for 900c.

In ps4 legion, a full set of fragmemt cost 130c, Atziri's disfavor is at 20ex, 1ex = 75c, so roughly 1500c.

That means 130c for 1500c, only about 15% more expansive than in the PC version.


Careful buddy people dont like logic around these lands.



Zzz.. of course the highest tier things will be expensive. So you're telling me that every pos rare with low tier mods are 1ex+ on PC? I think not.

And it's easy to say "I got this, I got that". Chalk that shit up to rng. Guess what, friends of mine have found 6l inpulsa, 6l belly and upwards of 10ex so far... I've found 3ex and ZERO items of value other than that. So, I have to buy what I need....at those prices
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binoculars wrote:
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bi4rep wrote:
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wenpoe wrote:
People are complaining uniques such as Atziri's disfavor is too expansive at 20ex, now let's do some math shall we?

According to Poe.ninja, a full set of mortal fragment cost about 90c in PC legion, Atziri's disfavor is at 900c.

So 90c for 900c.

In ps4 legion, a full set of fragmemt cost 130c, Atziri's disfavor is at 20ex, 1ex = 75c, so roughly 1500c.

That means 130c for 1500c, only about 15% more expansive than in the PC version.


Careful buddy people dont like logic around these lands.



Zzz.. of course the highest tier things will be expensive. So you're telling me that every pos rare with low tier mods are 1ex+ on PC? I think not.

And it's easy to say "I got this, I got that". Chalk that shit up to rng. Guess what, friends of mine have found 6l inpulsa, 6l belly and upwards of 10ex so far... I've found 3ex and ZERO items of value other than that. So, I have to buy what I need....at those prices


You have zero trade tabs cause you ftp pleb what the difference even if you did found value items ?? you cant sell them anyway
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bi4rep wrote:

You have zero trade tabs cause you ftp pleb what the difference even if you did found value items ?? you cant sell them anyway


Dude come on, don't compare how much money you have to how good of a gamer you are. Also, if you get anything worth selling it's pretty easy to find a buyer.
Need a new signature, cuz name change. I dunno though. I guess this seems fine. Yeah, this is good.
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BloodPuddles420 wrote:
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bi4rep wrote:

You have zero trade tabs cause you ftp pleb what the difference even if you did found value items ?? you cant sell them anyway


Dude come on, don't compare how much money you have to how good of a gamer you are. Also, if you get anything worth selling it's pretty easy to find a buyer.


Lol pretty much the first thing we agree on. And yes, I do have premium tabs to trade with lol
I know what you mean. I just priced a doomsower. and the going rate is 3 exalted. WTF?!
Since we have kids here who think that prices are "in par" with pc.... here's one for you


Belly of the beast on PC- 1-2 chaos
On ps4 - 1.5 exalts..

So, being that exalts are going for right around 100c:1ex on ps4... that's around 150c.


So, 1-2c on PC / 150c on ps4.. lol
Yeah, just a little more than 15%.

Over 100x the price... but yeah, no problem at all (if you're a price fixer)
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binoculars wrote:
Since we have kids here who think that prices are "in par" with pc.... here's one for you


Belly of the beast on PC- 1-2 chaos
On ps4 - 1.5 exalts..

So, being that exalts are going for right around 100c:1ex on ps4... that's around 150c.


So, 1-2c on PC / 150c on ps4.. lol
Yeah, just a little more than 15%.

Over 100x the price... but yeah, no problem at all (if you're a price fixer)


There is a special kind of bad and greedy player ruining the PS4 trade market at the moment.

Playing on PS4's standard league is 3x more expensive than playing Hardcore on PC. Apparently, having less money and fewer people means prices should be higher. Nothing sells but high prices just "feel" better.
Last edited by TJ_Solo#5549 on Jul 1, 2019, 3:04:23 AM
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binoculars wrote:
Since we have kids here who think that prices are "in par" with pc.... here's one for you


Belly of the beast on PC- 1-2 chaos
On ps4 - 1.5 exalts..

So, being that exalts are going for right around 100c:1ex on ps4... that's around 150c.


So, 1-2c on PC / 150c on ps4.. lol
Yeah, just a little more than 15%.

Over 100x the price... but yeah, no problem at all (if you're a price fixer)


The issue is that PS4 players think that it is worth that much and pay that much for a belly. Belly is great and all, but at that amount of initial investment you could spend less to buy a rare base, fossil craft it, have up to 48 quality to 6link (vs just 20 on the unique, or 28 with syndicate crafting bench if setup correct and have the outpost available) and end up with a chest with more life and better stats overall for less money. Its no different than starforge/disfavor vs the elder fortify rare weps.

The difference is one is very easy and straightforward and the other path takes knowledge of more systems. The PC players have had many steps to reach the current state of the game so they could learn each new system as they got added, but a new PS4 player is likely still overwhelmed and since most guides just go the get belly or whatever unique rather than suggesting the crafting path they dont take the time to look into crafting.

The other bigger issue IMO is on PS4 the item itself has huge value even at 1 socket, whereas on PC the belly only has some value if you have it 5 or 6 linked. PS4 still adds lots of value if you link the items, but far to many people doe not understand how important 6link is so too much of the value goes on the item and not the links. On PC if you get a belly or any good unique chest it only has value if you link it, which based on RNG can make you a ton or lose some investment based on RNG, whereas on PS4 its almost ensured loss if you link it yourself.

Until the PS4 gets a larger base of serious players (e.g., those who realize the difference between a belly and a linked belly because they understand the cost to link on PS4 is on average 7.5ex currently), more who craft to provide alternatives that in the end bring down the base price of unique items (the cost of linking the unique vs craft and link a rare at higher quality dictates that the unique cant be worth much without links), more people who delve in order to have a more reasonable supply of the fossils needed to have a healthy crafted item pool, and such we will not see pricing change.


The last thing I can say is that far too many items are not listed at final sale price, most of the items listed for 2ex or more sell for less than listed. Some of this is simply due to not being able to list it for 1.5ex and the chaos conversion is just too much of a pain on PS4 where we cant just click a few buttons to see it like you can on PC. Sure some people say 3ex and will ONLY take 3ex, but unless it is a very rare item with only 1-3 on the market, most of the time people take less than what they list because they listed the best value they can get and know each day that goes by the chance it sells at full value goes down because other people will get the item and having it sell is better then holding the item forever in their sell tab.


My richest friends either take 2/3-3/4 of their listed price (listed based on market) or list it significantly under the market and just move inventory quickly. I never got how they made so much in synthesis and flashback, and now in legion I have gone similar and have made so much more than the 2 previous leagues. More people will figure this out over time, and prices will reflect it.

If a Belly is only 1.5 now prices are dropping quickly. It was double that last league, the really shit rolls were going for 2 ex.
Need a new signature, cuz name change. I dunno though. I guess this seems fine. Yeah, this is good.
I've been saying the same thing about prices on xbox since release. Some things are reasonable and some things are just waaaaay over priced. The only consolation I can offer is that, if the PS market is anything like xbox, it will eventually get better.There are still over priced items, but a lot of things have seen a drastic price drop over the past few leagues.

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