[3.13] SPECTRE SUMMONER (2021 Edition) Necromancer Build. BEST League Starter! + VIDEO GUIDE!

it's working fine for me. could be you need to update PoB
I believe Flame Sentinels may be the better spectre when compared to Solar Guards.

TL:DR PoB with calcutions and notes (https://pastebin.com/FgRneb4q)

Solar Guards get a rather significant penalty to their damage when they start using GMP.

Flame Sentinels don't have this penalty of the GMP, due to the nature of their inherent skills.

I also believe the DPS of Solar guards may be a bit deceptive due to Solar Guards having a "reload" animation from the Beam skill, while Flame Sentinels have a far more consistent animation and likely a more consistent and true DPS calculation.

From messing arround with PoB i get the following, sorted by calc. DPS

370K - Solar G. - Single target
256K - Flame Sent. - Deathmark
234K - Flame Sent. - Classic
208K - Frost Sent. - BUGGED?
203K - Solar G. - Deathmark
200K - Flame Sent. - Feeding frenzy
194K - Solar G. - Classic
158K - Solar G. - Feeding frenzy

Gem setups can be seen in the PoB

Its my understanding that Solar Guards reigning supreme due to their slightly more aggresive AI than other spectre, but with the introduction of feeding frenzy every minion can get this behaviour and by using feeding frenzy on Flame sentinels i believe i have better damage than Solar Guards.

In case notes dont follow with a PoB pastebin link, i will attach them here.

Spoiler
Assumptions //
1) Minions have power and frenzy charges running from Victarios Charity
2) Target has been hit by lightning damage that proc's Elemental Equilibrium
2.1) Lightning damage, so that we can calculate for Frost and Flame Sentinels and Solar Guards


Configuration notes //
1) Deathmark box tick appears to only apply to gem setups that includes deathmark and thus won't affect the other setups
2) Feeding frenzy appears to have the same interaction in the calculations as Deathmark
3) We are calculating shaper DPS, as that seems to be the norm.


Other notes //
1) I dont think tweaking the tree affects the damage in favor of one kind of spectre, but i may be wrong.
2) The tree is my personal tree and i would advise against using it, i just imported it for calculations
3) Flame sentinels have been set to use Multi Fireball as this is the lowest damage source
Last edited by cervio93#4854 on Sep 11, 2019, 8:02:20 PM
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cervio93 wrote:
I believe Flame Sentinels may be the better spectre when compared to Solar Guards.

TL:DR PoB with calcutions and notes (https://pastebin.com/FgRneb4q)

Solar Guards get a rather significant penalty to their damage when they start using GMP.

Flame Sentinels don't have this penalty of the GMP, due to the nature of their inherent skills.

I also believe the DPS of Solar guards may be a bit deceptive due to Solar Guards having a "reload" animation from the Beam skill, while Flame Sentinels have a far more consistent animation and likely a more consistent and true DPS calculation.

From messing arround with PoB i get the following, sorted by calc. DPS

370K - Solar G. - Single target
256K - Flame Sent. - Deathmark
234K - Flame Sent. - Classic
208K - Frost Sent. - BUGGED?
203K - Solar G. - Deathmark
200K - Flame Sent. - Feeding frenzy
194K - Solar G. - Classic
158K - Solar G. - Feeding frenzy

Gem setups can be seen in the PoB

Its my understanding that Solar Guards reigning supreme due to their slightly more aggresive AI than other spectre, but with the introduction of feeding frenzy every minion can get this behaviour and by using feeding frenzy on Flame sentinels i believe i have better damage than Solar Guards.

In case notes dont follow with a PoB pastebin link, i will attach them here.

Spoiler
Assumptions //
1) Minions have power and frenzy charges running from Victarios Charity
2) Target has been hit by lightning damage that proc's Elemental Equilibrium
2.1) Lightning damage, so that we can calculate for Frost and Flame Sentinels and Solar Guards


Configuration notes //
1) Deathmark box tick appears to only apply to gem setups that includes deathmark and thus won't affect the other setups
2) Feeding frenzy appears to have the same interaction in the calculations as Deathmark
3) We are calculating shaper DPS, as that seems to be the norm.


Other notes //
1) I dont think tweaking the tree affects the damage in favor of one kind of spectre, but i may be wrong.
2) The tree is my personal tree and i would advise against using it, i just imported it for calculations
3) Flame sentinels have been set to use Multi Fireball as this is the lowest damage source

projectile speed and cast rate os flame sentinels is very shitty, unfortunately. Same for frost ones
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

projectile speed and cast rate os flame sentinels is very shitty, unfortunately. Same for frost ones


Proj. Speed appears the same to me, but i may be wrong and cast rate doesn't really matter once it is above 3-4 cast per second.
Also, what im saying is that FS are better SG in every way except one specific boss killing setup.
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cervio93 wrote:
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

projectile speed and cast rate os flame sentinels is very shitty, unfortunately. Same for frost ones


Proj. Speed appears the same to me, but i may be wrong and cast rate doesn't really matter once it is above 3-4 cast per second.
Also, what im saying is that FS are better SG in every way except one specific boss killing setup.

FS are not better at all. They are very slow and their cast rate is shit unfortunately. I did all comparisons a long time ago
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Whats the general consensus on Lunaris Concubines?

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TherionPrime wrote:
Whats the general consensus on Lunaris Concubines?


Not great not terrible, seems like decent life pool and damage too
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I'm thinking about rolling this build from my current zombie build. Not much items to change and already have the respec points. Will update later tonight! :)
I'm thinking about rolling this build from my current zombie build. Not much items to change and already have the respec points. Will update later tonight! :)
Guys what about of pledge of hands version of build? Is it worth to spec from wand+shield to pledge version?

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