Balance Changes in Path of Exile: Betrayal

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Ghostseer wrote:

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SeabeeO wrote:

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You will no longer be able to use skills that require a specific weapon equipped if you are dual-wielding and one of your equipped weapons is unsuitable for that skill.

I wasn't crazy about this league when first saw the announcement for it... so was losing interest in game but this change utterly kills the game for me. Takes my league farmer toon completely out...

Nice move GGG.... RIP this game.


If you wanted me to feel betrayed... you've succeeded.

I don't really understand you people who play the same builds over and over. The glory of PoE is build diversity yet the people mad at this announcement are upset that their favourite build is temporarily weakened.

The are a litany of builds and a great many new ones are created every league. I'm not going to say that people are playing the game wrong, each to their own. But if playing the same build league after league is your goal, you're going to be upset at every change that affects that singular build over and over.
edit: I just looked at this guy's characters, you play Sunder with a Prismatic Eclipse.. that's your cause to be distressed about this change? I hope GGG doesn't listen to people like you, to be frank.

If anyone wants to be annoyed at something, this isn't it. Be annoyed at the 3 new ailments when the ailment system's current implementation is so poor and underpowered.

The glory of PoE is that people can do what they want to do. Now a lot of people cannot do this anymore. Yes, it really is that simple.

My biggest issue with the DW change is with movement skills more so than anything else.

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Feredhel wrote:

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moonmidnight wrote:

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ಥ_ಥ wrote:

I'm going to miss Death's Hand but whatever. There are other ways to get Unholy might and generate power charges.

theres still hope for unique off hands to be changed

try ball of lightning + increased crit chance + power charge on crit
BOOM
there ya go

Nah, has no real potential. Any build that relies on those mechanics or orb of storms has no real potential to go beyond t11/12 maps with anything but joke mods. Not that Death's Hand off-hand builds had potential to go beyond that either.

Kind of hints at the real problem with the game since it came out. Most builds are simply dead-end sooner or later.

Hi friends. I don't mean to sound like confrontational but where the hell has anyone answered the op's question. Are we getting twice the totems??? so are we able to cast 1 less totem for the ability to cast 2 at once??? totally lame. or are we getting twice the totems??? as in I cast 2 for every 1 available. so 6 ???? please answer the ops question.

re : ritual of awakening.

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Reemzmeister wrote:

Hi friends. I don't mean to sound like confrontational but where the hell has anyone answered the op's question. Are we getting twice the totems??? so are we able to cast 1 less totem for the ability to cast 2 at once??? totally lame. or are we getting twice the totems??? as in I cast 2 for every 1 available. so 6 ???? please answer the ops question.

re : ritual of awakening.

I think it means two totems for people who use totem skills that are not spell totem. Flame Totem, Searing Bond, etc. I think we'll find out later though, probably three hours or less now I'm guessing.

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Reemzmeister wrote:

Hi friends. I don't mean to sound like confrontational but where the hell has anyone answered the op's question. Are we getting twice the totems??? so are we able to cast 1 less totem for the ability to cast 2 at once??? totally lame. or are we getting twice the totems??? as in I cast 2 for every 1 available. so 6 ???? please answer the ops question.

re : ritual of awakening.

Reading is hard isn't it? It clearly states that instead of getting +1 max totem, you get +1 totems per summon to a total of 2 totems summon with 1 click, so i.e. 5 max totems and 1 totem per cast, becomes 4 max totems with 2 totems per cast.

it states you will cast 2 instead. what do you not understand about instead?

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morigol wrote:

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Skoobz_AUS wrote:

Good to see the PoE community is just as toxic as any other.

Wait for the bloody patch notes before you get your panties all in a knot.

>Calls a normal discussion and a exchange of ideas "toxic".

Go back to Reddit.

an* exchange.

If these rage posts based on limited information are normal discussion to you, I’d suggest some English comprehension to go with your English grammar studies.

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I don't really understand you people who play the same builds over and over. The glory of PoE is build diversity yet the people mad at this announcement are upset that their favourite build is temporarily weakened.

The are a litany of builds and a great many new ones are created every league. I'm not going to say that people are playing the game wrong, each to their own. But if playing the same build league after league is your goal, you're going to be upset at every change that affects that singular build over and over.
edit: I just looked at this guy's characters, you play Sunder with a Prismatic Eclipse.. that's your cause to be distressed about this change? I hope GGG doesn't listen to people like you, to be frank.

If anyone wants to be annoyed at something, this isn't it. Be annoyed at the 3 new ailments when the ailment system's current implementation is so poor and underpowered.

You don't have to understand "you people".

Games are for enjoyment. You find enjoyment with one play style... I find it in another. I see you've been playing since 2015... I've been playing since the day after open Beta release.

Yes, go a head laugh at me, my go to league starter is sunder jugg with Prismatic Elcipse in the off-hand. For an old slow guy like myself, this the only inexpensive endgame viable set-up I've found that reliable allows me to farm to be able to buy gear for the ridiculous expensive set-ups that are meta end-game viable for leagues. So take away my ability to make currency enough to try the Meta build de jour, takes away my enjoyment of the game. A fact of life.

GGG has already gotten two to three thousand of dollars my household over the 5 (almost 6) years I and my wife have played but that doesn't make the future of GGG... its younger folks. There's younger folks playing sunder jugg who put my build to shame. IF you want to pick on me for that too, so be it. GGG thinks this is the right move, it's all good.... it means I've probably been playing this game too long.

GGG does a great job at providing new content... some good, some bad. I've been a defender of GGG for that reason. While I'm not particularly keene on this release and been losing interest in this game because red tier map drop rates have not been sustainable for me, does not give you right to call me "you people" or to laugh at my build.

Do I think for moment that GGG is going to listen to the likes of me, you're wrong. As Chris has said, GGG does what it thinks PoE needs now. If that no longer includes really old guy like me, that's fine. In fact, it's all good. I play because I enjoy it. It's fun to mindless kill things after I've worked all day. And it's also fun to theory craft builds.... I'm still trying to make viable witch physical wander.

When the enjoyment is gone, it's time to move on.... which was the intent of my original post... I think, it's time for me to move and after almost 6 years of playing, I didn't want to with out saying a word first. /rant