[3.5] Hopeshredder Scourge Arrow | Fast beefy Mapper | Deathless Uber Elder (5M+ Shaper DPS)

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SI3R2A wrote:

Hello guys, have a question. So i have unnatural instinct and 13ex, i think to sell ui, and by farruls fur, so its worth it or not?

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s0mosh wrote:

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toddliestew wrote:

Would lightpoacher be an alternative for this build? or is it a waste of helmslot?

Since this build relys on flat dmg stacking to improve deeps, I'd say a Lightpoacher (or even a Hale Negator, if you can afford the enchant) is BiS. 2 Abyssal Sockets can give you so much damage (if you have the right jewels), it doesn't really compare to ohter options.

Not to mention the strong regeneration from the spirit charges.

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Miffy23 wrote:

While jewels will give you a lot of damage, it heavily depends on your setup and preference.
The helmet slot is really flexible on this build, I stick to a Starkonja because whether i do 5.5 or 6 mil shaper doesn't really matter, rather have the extra life and mitigation to avoid the potential for oneshots (along with Phase Acrobatics).

Lightpoacher will be more value on V1 setup with a Kaom's, as we get more life there and Poacher is relatively cheap with 2 Abyss Jewels, making it a good option to stack damage compared to the relatively expensive Bubonics and Tombfists at 2 sockets. The regen from Spirit Charges is pretty irrelevant for us though, the only danger to us are outright oneshots, anything else is covered by Slayer overleech anyway.

A good -cold res fossil-crafted rare can also be a great choice.

Devoto's is imo the most overrated option, as it only gives a tiny bit more attack speed and the tbh pretty irrelevant movespeed over a bunch of life and more mitigation from a Starkonja, for example.

But it's really up to personal preference - and/or whatever head enchant you might be able to get on something.

I don't even run Scourge Arrow on the helmet, Rain of Arrows enchants are *extremely* cheap this league on Starkonjas and are a really nice clear upgrade.

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s0mosh wrote:

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Miffy23 wrote:

While jewels will give you a lot of damage, it heavily depends on your setup and preference.
The helmet slot is really flexible on this build, I stick to a Starkonja because whether i do 5.5 or 6 mil shaper doesn't really matter, rather have the extra life and mitigation to avoid the potential for oneshots (along with Phase Acrobatics).

Lightpoacher will be more value on V1 setup with a Kaom's, as we get more life there and Poacher is relatively cheap with 2 Abyss Jewels, making it a good option to stack damage compared to the relatively expensive Bubonics and Tombfists at 2 sockets. The regen from Spirit Charges is pretty irrelevant for us though, the only danger to us are outright oneshots, anything else is covered by Slayer overleech anyway.

A good -cold res fossil-crafted rare can also be a great choice.

Devoto's is imo the most overrated option, as it only gives a tiny bit more attack speed and the tbh pretty irrelevant movespeed over a bunch of life and more mitigation from a Starkonja, for example.

But it's really up to personal preference - and/or whatever head enchant you might be able to get on something.

I don't even run Scourge Arrow on the helmet, Rain of Arrows enchants are *extremely* cheap this league on Starkonjas and are a really nice clear upgrade.

I agree with you that It's a personal preference, but I have to say that nothing compares to a Hale Negator IMO.. You also get 100 life from jewels + increased life + a shitton of dmg.

It is right that this build doesn't rely on the life recovery, but since it is instant and not overtime, I practically have 36% more maximum life with 12 jewels equipped. It saved my ass countless times and I wouldn't go back for anything else now that I've tried it.

Btw..I also cannot understand why so many pepople are playing with a Devoto's...it's so much wasted potential..IMO ;)

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Miffy23 wrote:

You do gain life and damage from the jewels ofc, but you also lose skill slots. If using a Bubonic and Tombfist as well you're very short on slots already. Personally I would have to make the choice between abandoning my Immortal Call, dropping War Banner or Blood Rage, and i don't really want to do any of that.

I've yet to encounter a situation in T16+ content where the slayer leech by itself didn't almost instantly pop me up again, but i'm not pushing delves - for deep delving something like a Hale Negator may be good.