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Hello hello, I was planning to roll another necro but with spectres but I wonder what are the best for clear speed (even if the single target isn't that good) or is Slave Driver and Solar Guards still the best spectres?. Ty in advance
Redemption Sentry seems very good.
From my testings(Deathmark 2L vs act 9 basilisk boss), they have similar or slightly higher base dps compared to Slave Drivers.
They suffer less from too-many-skillset problem since their skills are pretty much same long-range projectile skills.
Long-range projectiles also mean much smoother mapping and blight encounters with op GMP+Chain combo.
405% life comes very handy in rippy contents, and cold damage provides more survivability to the character as well.

Downsides are that they have very slow base attackspeed(needs minion attack speed from haste&other sources), and Spectre 6L colour/support gem set-ups would be very different from the likes of Slave Driver or Solar Guard since they are attack&projectile based Spectres(many green+red gems), so you may need to go out of your comfort zone for 6L. Needs a lot of Dexterity.
You also can't use Pledge of Hands for easy dps boost.


I didn't like any Baranite Spectre.
Sister and Preacher felt too weak/slow, and Thaumaturge felt really clunky for mapping with constant ground AoE cast, especially using Pledge of Hands.
Last edited by Philarl#3984 on Mar 25, 2020, 5:17:31 PM
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Philarl wrote:
Redemption Sentry seems very good.
From my testings(Deathmark 2L vs act 9 basilisk boss), they have similar or slightly higher base dps compared to Slave Drivers.
They suffer less from too-many-skillset problem since their skills are pretty much same long-range projectile skills.
Long-range projectiles also mean much smoother mapping and blight encounters with op GMP+Chain combo.
405% life comes very handy in rippy contents, and cold damage provides more survivability to the character as well.

Downsides are that they have very slow base attackspeed(needs minion attack speed from haste&other sources), and Spectre 6L colour/support gem set-ups would be very different from the likes of Slave Driver or Solar Guard since they are attack&projectile based Spectres(many green+red gems), so you may need to go out of your comfort zone for 6L. Needs a lot of Dexterity.
You also can't use Pledge of Hands for easy dps boost.


I didn't like any Baranite Spectre.
Sister and Preacher felt too weak/slow, and Thaumaturge felt really clunky for mapping with constant ground AoE cast, especially using Pledge of Hands.


The Redemption Sentry look very interesting especially since I use Spider build version so I already use Hatred and other phys buff auras that could benefit them too. What would be your 6 links to use on them I have a hybrid int/str chest so I can easily get some red color and some white ones with Vorici but I am not sure what the perfect setup for them would be.
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leorina1990 wrote:
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Steenlandt wrote:
Those that use the PoH-version, why don't you use your spare six-link for Zombies? They do decent damage with this build, apply elemental exposure and help tank. I like it as an alternative to spiders, trading in speed for less cumbersomeness.


What do you think I should put on that 6L?
Does echo affect zombie damage as they are not spell caster type?

I'd stick with a regular tanky zombie setup: melee damage, multistrike, fortify, elemental army and meat shield. Put that in your chest, since your spectres are already in your PoH. They are doing great so far, even with feeding frenzy instead of meat shield I hardly lose some any of them.
Is this possible to craft +1 level of spectre boots without fossils?
I have tried to roll elder ilvl77 boots with alt/aug/regal and spent alot of currency, but didnt seen this mod...

Sirus A8 down with Starter build modified for full life.

In boss killing baranite preacher are amazing, but you need to give him order / deathmark, where SD do the work alone!

Run with 3 preachers/ 2 Sd in map, full preacher for boss kill.

One more league , thks Kay for the works.

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Asuras9393 wrote:
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Philarl wrote:
Redemption Sentry seems very good.
From my testings(Deathmark 2L vs act 9 basilisk boss), they have similar or slightly higher base dps compared to Slave Drivers.
They suffer less from too-many-skillset problem since their skills are pretty much same long-range projectile skills.
Long-range projectiles also mean much smoother mapping and blight encounters with op GMP+Chain combo.
405% life comes very handy in rippy contents, and cold damage provides more survivability to the character as well.

Downsides are that they have very slow base attackspeed(needs minion attack speed from haste&other sources), and Spectre 6L colour/support gem set-ups would be very different from the likes of Slave Driver or Solar Guard since they are attack&projectile based Spectres(many green+red gems), so you may need to go out of your comfort zone for 6L. Needs a lot of Dexterity.
You also can't use Pledge of Hands for easy dps boost.


I didn't like any Baranite Spectre.
Sister and Preacher felt too weak/slow, and Thaumaturge felt really clunky for mapping with constant ground AoE cast, especially using Pledge of Hands.


The Redemption Sentry look very interesting especially since I use Spider build version so I already use Hatred and other phys buff auras that could benefit them too. What would be your 6 links to use on them I have a hybrid int/str chest so I can easily get some red color and some white ones with Vorici but I am not sure what the perfect setup for them would be.


Yeah being able to use Hatred alone is really op.
I'm no expert on bow skills, but optimally I would use Raise Spectre-Elemental Damage with Attacks-Minion Damage-Vicious Projectiles-Greater Multiple Projectiles-Chain. 3G2B1R.
Using Empower(+2 support gem multi-crafted bow) could also be a consideration, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. My guess is probably not.
GMP&Chain can be swapped for Slower Projectiles&Cold penetration for ultimate single target damage. Not sure on Added Cold Damage(can't evaluate flat damage w/o pob info, need field test).

Since spiders can clear in your case, you could use deathmark as well. Raise Spectre-WED-Minion Damage-Deathmark-Vicious Projectiles-Slower Projectiles 3B2G1R?

I would recommend doing Tabula test before fully committing though.
Last edited by Philarl#3984 on Mar 25, 2020, 8:33:57 PM
Why isn't Minions deal damage on rings an affix we look for?
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papagoja1 wrote:
Why isn't Minions deal damage on rings an affix we look for?


I recommend stacking as much life and res on your necro as possible because of the one-shots in the game. Your DPS is 0 when you are dead.

If you can find ring/amulet with a lot of life and minion damage, then definitely buy or use it. People usually sell those for a lot of currency, thouugh.
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Philarl wrote:
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Asuras9393 wrote:
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Philarl wrote:
Redemption Sentry seems very good.
From my testings(Deathmark 2L vs act 9 basilisk boss), they have similar or slightly higher base dps compared to Slave Drivers.

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Downsides are that they have very slow base attackspeed(needs minion attack speed from haste&other sources), and Spectre 6L colour/support gem set-ups would be very different from the likes of Slave Driver or Solar Guard since they are attack&projectile based Spectres(many green+red gems)


The Redemption Sentry look very interesting especially since I use Spider build version so I already use Hatred and other phys buff auras that could benefit them too. What would be your 6 links to use on them I have a hybrid int/str chest so I can easily get some red color and some white ones with Vorici but I am not sure what the perfect setup for them would be.


Yeah being able to use Hatred alone is really op.
I'm no expert on bow skills, but optimally I would use Raise Spectre-Elemental Damage with Attacks-Minion Damage-Vicious Projectiles-Greater Multiple Projectiles-Chain. 3G2B1R.
Using Empower(+2 support gem multi-crafted bow) could also be a consideration, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. My guess is probably not.
GMP&Chain can be swapped for Slower Projectiles&Cold penetration for ultimate single target damage. Not sure on Added Cold Damage(can't evaluate flat damage w/o pob info, need field test).

Since spiders can clear in your case, you could use deathmark as well. Raise Spectre-WED-Minion Damage-Deathmark-Vicious Projectiles-Slower Projectiles 3B2G1R?

I would recommend doing Tabula test before fully committing though.


If you want to focus on attack projectile spectres, you might want to use Lioneye's body armour. It's a psuedo 7-link because it come with Pierce 15 (pierce 3, 14% more damage).

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye%27s_Vision

And because spider are doing the map clear, the sentries can focus on single target damage.

I think the first 4 gems would be:
1. Raise Spectre
2. Minion Damage
3. Vicious Proj
4. Deathmark

Then:

5. Elemental Damage with Attack.
They do 75% cold conversion, so you don't get the full effect of this support like the first 4.

6. Damage on Full Life
If you take Grave Intentions, they should get about 10-14k ES and there is some leech, so will be on full life most of the time.


This sounds really interesting actually. I don't know when I'll get around to trying it, so if anyone does, please post back in the forum.


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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Mar 25, 2020, 11:01:13 PM

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