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Linaweide wrote:
Hello,

I've seen several videos of Kay with the "Fortify" buff, or am I supposed to have it? From a gem in my gear, a passive in my skill tree or a jewel that I need to put?

Thanks :)


It should be her Animate Guardian wearing a Kingmaker unique x)
what is better to use now?


OR
Last edited by 4emiiu0h25#7151 on Oct 5, 2020, 2:04:47 PM
the only time i feel very squishy with my gear is when i open doors in heist.

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4emiiu0h25 wrote:
what is better to use now?


OR


Helmet with +3 - 16/18/20 Minion Damage + Hypo are always the way to go into the endgame.
which items is best for leveling ?

tabula and what more?
Can someone post their POB and items so I can basically buy the same thing as you, as I am having trouble killing bosses and sirus.

Thanks,
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KalestiyaAkana wrote:
Hello guys, can someone link somewhere working PoB file with added syndicate operative spectres pls? I try it muyself, but pob is just open with error.


From Opening post
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Please use Path of Building Community Fork for POB Pastebin.
https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/releases
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Roxas33 wrote:
Hello ! Following this guide and having a lot of fun. I looted this Large Cluster Jewel today, and I am asking myself about his pricing, because the trade macro is going crazy with this one, and since it's a minion related cluster jewel, I'm wondering how much I could get from this one or if I should keep it for the endgame.





That's an 8 socket ilvl 40 minion damage cluster jewel. As you can see, it's worth 30-50c. I would not roll it or use it for endgame.

If you check the available affixes by ilvl for minion jewels you can see that there are several item levels where different affixes can be rolled.

Notables by ilvl
1: Call to the Slaughter, Feasting Fiends, T3 passives
50: Renewal, Rotten Claws
68: Raze and Pillage, Skeletal Atrophy, Primordial Bond, T2 passives
75: Vicious Bite
84: T1 passives


I used PoB to see how different notables would affect my Syndicate Operative dps and here are the results. I've included a few annotations for notables that require certain builds and their estimated DPS multipliers for those builds.

Notable DPS
Renewal: x1.1 (Full Life)
Call to the Slaughter: x1.031
Primordial Bond: x1.028
Vicious Bite: x1.022 (x1.1 Crit)
Feasting Fiends: x1.02
Raze and Pillage: x1.005 (x1.05 See Below)
Rotten Claws: N/A (x1.1 Physical)
Skeletal Atrophy: N/A

Raze and Pillage Details
Depending on your build Raze and Pillage can be really good but it's not good in the meta Syndicate Operative builds. In the elemental damage version you are probably triggering EE with Armageddon Brand and using an element-specific curse. In the physical damage version you are using Brutality. If your build does not do either of those things then it might be worth taking.



As you can see, this kind of creates a rough notable Tier list.

Notable Tier List
T1: Renewal
T2: Call to the Slaughter, Primordial Bond
T3: Vicious Bite (T1 Crit), Feasting Fiends
T4: Raze and Pillage, Rotten Claws (T1 Phys), Skeletal Atrophy


The T1 notables here are way above the other tiers in terms of DPS. You want to have as many T1 notables that work with your build and then fill in the gaps with some T2 and T3 as lesser bonuses. That's why jewels less than ilvl 50 are not worth it. They can't roll any T1 notables.

Based on all of this information, the most cost effective item level brackets to roll is 50-67. Here are some crafting odds from using Bound fossils on an ilvl 50 cluster jewel.

Ilvl 50 crafting costs
Renewal + Call: 28c (68%)
Renewal + Feast: 35c (67%)
Renewal + Call + Feast: 60c (65%)
Renewal + Rotten + Call: 158c (64%)


If you have tons of exalts to blow then you can try to craft a Vicious Bite jewel, but it's going to cost a ton of currency (many exalts). The best item level for that is 75-82. You do not want to get an 83+ cluster jewel because it adds a bunch of T1 small passive affixes that significantly dilute the pool.

To see this in action, here are the odds for some previously shown crafts at all the different item level breakpoints.

Crafting costs by Ilvl
Renewal + Call
ilvl 50: 28c (68%)
ilvl 68: 60c (65%)
ilvl 75: 60c (65%)
ilvl 83: 77c(64%)

Renewal + Call + Feast
ilvl 50: 158c (64%)
ilvl 68: 192c (64%)
ilvl 75: 204c (64%)
ilvl 83: 310c (64%)


In conclusion, most people should roll ilvl 50-67 cluster jewels because it can roll both Renewal which is T1 for all builds and a few T2-3 notables.

If you have physical spectres then you also want Rotten Claws which also rolls in that ilvl bracket.

Finally, if you have tons of currency (5+ ex) to burn and are investing in a crit build then you should get an ilvl 75-82 cluster jewel so you can hit Vicious Bite.

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Roxas33 wrote:

I'm also asking myself about this jewel :



That's a pretty decent jewel. It's worth using for quite a while. Getting minion blind chance or minion taunt chance from a jewel is more useful than hinder. However hinder is still nice to have.
Last edited by Nymel#2384 on Oct 5, 2020, 3:38:18 PM
Can I use Inc Minion Dmg on Arakaali's instead of Inc Speed? Is the clear going to be affected much?
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ZeroCloud wrote:


Do you have a video showing this in action? It would be nice to see this in a T19 delirium and against Sirus. I'm most interested to see how the clear is in the delirium based on you saying it is quicker.


can try and record one later. but things like sirus literally insta phase. last phase he dies before he even gets to cast anything

https://pastebin.com/iw7ukkdu

there's my pob if you wanna have a look. 10.1m dps per golem times 4 with vaal haste up, 8.6m without. awoke multi takes it to 11.5m/9m
Last edited by crazypearce#3760 on Oct 5, 2020, 4:24:59 PM

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