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for those complaining about being squishy that's just how it is. you really shouldn't be having problems up until juiced t16s though. if you are then you just need to practice and get better at the playstyle and learn to avoid one shots.

there are plenty of people pushing this build into level 100 so there is definitely nothing wrong with it. personally for me it just wasn't laid back enough. you have to convocate a lot and also dodge a lot of things which is why i moved into lowlife carrion golem. you can afk farm a lot easier, it's a bit quicker at clear and has amazing defense with 87% all res and almost 40m sirus dps right now.

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ChosenOne_00 wrote:

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snowmittens wrote:

I also don't like the defenses on this build, never has so many deaths in any other build.

Long time necro, but I believe this is gonna be my last one

Same here. Played multiple necros at this point, but the defenses were always kinda meh (not counting the league before offerings nerf).

This is one of the squishiest necro builds I've played, including some CoC shenanigans. On this one I have 20+ deaths: some are random one-shots, while others come from Sirus... I prefer playing SC like HC a bit, being super defensive, no deaths until a certain point and few deaths after.

Nevertheless, build was extremely fun and zoom-zoom.

I also think every time anything is this fast, it's bound to be squishy. At least in my experience.

Damn, that's discouraging to hear. I suck at dodging and predicting enemy/boss attacks so I'll probably die a lot when I get to maps.

Some things I did that seemed to help majorly for me personally and I stopped dying at all which are: Switch bubbling life flask to seething. And add a warding flask rather than reflexes. I also took glancing blow and added a minion taunt/blind on hit abyssal jewel.

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crazypearce wrote:

for those complaining about being squishy that's just how it is. you really shouldn't be having problems up until juiced t16s though. if you are then you just need to practice and get better at the playstyle and learn to avoid one shots.

there are plenty of people pushing this build into level 100 so there is definitely nothing wrong with it. personally for me it just wasn't laid back enough. you have to convocate a lot and also dodge a lot of things which is why i moved into lowlife carrion golem. you can afk farm a lot easier, it's a bit quicker at clear and has amazing defense with 87% all res and almost 40m sirus dps right now.

Yes, I was considering it, but then you said it took you ~40 ex, not sure I have that much (ex prices kinda screwed me over this league)... I still might if I don't get burnt out by then.

Regarding squishiness: I didn't die until level 91, was running the HC version. But that was also before doing juiced up heists and before red tiers, this is where things got hairy. I am by no means playing perfectly of course. But something is telling me those pushing for 100 are not running juiced T16... Maybe I'm wrong.

Agreed on Convocate, sometimes SO have a dumb AI, still they're insane spectres overall.

With close to 9k HP +bone offering, I don't have survivability issues on T16s. it's end game bosses, some T16 betrayals and metamorphs that are bad

I use 3 SD as I find them to be best for bossing, however they are too squishy and 3 level 23 don't do enough damage so the fights last too long. Last AW6 I tried They died off so fast it was just pathetic and they also die to other bosses like some guardians

Probably going SSF with bad luck on crafting/gear + maybe not the best build for SSF are factors here. First league since I started that is a fail for me.

At the moment (A7) im having no issues with bosses, the only times i die was in random oneshots in maps, half the time for been too cocky with maps mods (elemental weakness + 100% extra cold damage? who cares xD)

Im with frost scout and never see them loss any life, the only time i nearly lost a minion was the cheap AG in A7 sirius, elder(that was my fault, forget to convo in the last explosion)

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snowmittens wrote:

With close to 9k HP +bone offering, I don't have survivability issues on T16s. it's end game bosses, some T16 betrayals and metamorphs that are bad

I use 3 SD as I find them to be best for bossing, however they are too squishy and 3 level 23 don't do enough damage so the fights last too long. Last AW6 I tried They died off so fast it was just pathetic and they also die to other bosses like some guardians

Probably going SSF with bad luck on crafting/gear + maybe not the best build for SSF are factors here. First league since I started that is a fail for me.

I don't even know how to pull this off in SSF... All crafts are insanely difficult, I just went for trade right away. There's this website which is amazing to show you the total chaos orbs it will take you on average to craft what you want to craft: https://www.craftofexile.com/

When I checked, all pieces of gear required essentially 600+ chaos orbs. I wish crafts were more deterministic, like in Harvest, maybe with less chance, but still.

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crazypearce wrote:

for those complaining about being squishy that's just how it is. you really shouldn't be having problems up until juiced t16s though. if you are then you just need to practice and get better at the playstyle and learn to avoid one shots.

there are plenty of people pushing this build into level 100 so there is definitely nothing wrong with it. personally for me it just wasn't laid back enough. you have to convocate a lot and also dodge a lot of things which is why i moved into lowlife carrion golem. you can afk farm a lot easier, it's a bit quicker at clear and has amazing defense with 87% all res and almost 40m sirus dps right now.

Do you have a video showing this in action? It would be nice to see this in a T19 delirium and against Sirus. I'm most interested to see how the clear is in the delirium based on you saying it is quicker.

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Nymel wrote:

A lot of "1 shots" on delirium maps/heist are multiple enemies hitting you with spells either at the same time or in quick succession. To fix that I have the following suggestions.

Take Glancing Blows and reach 75% spellblock. At the moment you only regenerate from 25% of spell hits (17% offering, 8% Bulwark). You can get the 12.5% additional spellblock to reach cap from Sanctuary and by crafting block on your shield. This will reduce your damage reduction against attacks, but it will triple your block life regen against bursts of spells.

Jinxed Juju would also help, but it's less important. Also, you might want to try swapping out Devouring Diadem and see if you are fine without the sustain. It doesn't help against burst damage (unless you get really lucky with feast timing).

Why is Glancing Blows not used in the 2 cluster setup?

How good is the life on block truly? It seems that when we are at risk we are either getting 1shot or quickly burst down and in both scenarios I don't see how the small amount of life recovery would keep up. I'm just questioning if this is only helpful in rare cases where it might be nicer for the minions to have frenzy instead.

Why is Surging vitality recommended on the medium jewel slots? In almost all cases a rare abyssal and the 2 points you would have spent on the small cluster can gain you more life plus the other useful damage mods on the abyssal.

With enduring composure, does it feel like in practice an endurance charge is always up? Here is where a simple craft on a ring with +1 to Minimum Endurance Charges might accomplish the same thing and not waste points.

I still don't understand why profane with frostbite is recommended. Why waste a gem slot when you can get an unset with curse frostbite on hit? A lot can be done with this slot. A lot more damage from bonechill on skitterbots for example.

Diadem gives up a lot of life in the slot. Can't we just get mana reduction on amulet with the +1 skills and maybe a few RMR jewels and work in another item?

These are the questions I have been hoping to see discussed or addressed.

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ZeroCloud wrote:

Why is Glancing Blows not used in the 2 cluster setup?

How good is the life on block truly? It seems that when we are at risk we are either getting 1shot or quickly burst down and in both scenarios I don't see how the small amount of life recovery would keep up. I'm just questioning if this is only helpful in rare cases where it might be nicer for the minions to have frenzy instead.

What do you think of using Mistwall in this build? Maybe even taking Glancing Blows with it... I just wanted to see someone's opinion on it before maybe testing out (will require a lot of dex and gear swapping potentially).

running a private league for some friends (basically SSF) and i managed to 4W my triad grips, I was running cold SO spectres but i figured chaos convert would be better but im not too sure... Outside of wither support on zombies/carrion and swapping frostbite to despair is there anything else I can do to help scale the chaos onvert?