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Fencatffxi wrote:

You specifically mentioned the nerf to redeption sentrys and that nerf is the same in standard no matter what gear you got.
But I see you just wanted to flex anyway so I'll leave it there, you have fun.

Sorry Fencatffxi... I forgot to link this Timeless who gives me 400% Minion Damage =D But good luck on Heist man...True =D

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Vaildez wrote:

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Fencatffxi wrote:

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NNeto wrote:

HAHAHAHhAA ... How happy I am to see how worried are my fellas (who play temporary leagues) with the nerf on Redemption Sentrys, while I am having fun on my Standard with the shit I bought from Harvest! Very happy here ... I'm sorry for your temporary leagues my friends =D

You do know the nerfs happen in standard too right ;)

Personally I didnt use redemption sentrys anyway, I found them too slow.

I am in the same boat... I switched to RS late and I wasn't that impressed with them over just slave drivers. Too much of an investment to make them really viable and you lose survivability if you go with the unique gloves and ring. I mean the map clearing was impressive but that was never really an issue on any any spectre build I have played.

I did the Spider build but had great success with Redemption knights + Arena Master. Sure the take a fraction longer to kill stuff far away but they keep up with your movement speed and they huddle around you for protection instead of lagging half a screen behind as the sentrys.
Slavedrivers worked well too but I liked the huge bump in spectre HP going to the RK's as they tended to feel a bit squishy now and then.

I was thinking of trying S&S this league with Redemption Knights but I was a bit concerned about the boss killing. How rough is it?

I switched from slave drivers to 2 baranite thaumaturges and a baranite preacher and found them to be pretty good. They're a little slow but the damage seems good and the survivability is much better than the slave drivers.

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sign4l wrote:

I checked a lot of builds for the new league and when i decided for minions they nerf it, whyyyy? :_( is it still viable?

Yes. These people always overreact to any nerfs.
The reality is this build was really really good and now it might be just good/ok even if they slap a 25% dmg nerf to RS.

A build doing 20M shaper dps is not going to die even if they slap a 30% dmg nerf on it. But people act like thats the case.

And the defensive nerfs, the old version of the build did not use any of that stuff and we did fine. A lot of necros out there did not use bone offering or cyclone/spirit offering (before the nerf), glancing blows and they did fine.

Hell, there are a lot of necros at lvl 100 that did not even pick mistress of sacrifice. They went with bone barrier/comander of darkness.

What will happen with this nerf is the gear we "need" will be cheaper because people will think necro is dead.

The thing that could really hurt the RS build is GGG overdoing the HP nerf. But even then you can just switch to a different spectre. Not the end of the world.

Just ignore everybody saying the build is dead. They do this all the time

decided to come back to spectres after harvest since no more op crafting :(

ppl should just chill regarding the changes, necro has been hit by nerfs after nerfs every league and still doing fine. just look at this thread which is made in 2018, its still very well alive. yes there are nerfs here and there but it doesnt matter. the nerfs wont make this build total garbage, IF you know what you're doing at least.

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Furywrath wrote:

What spectres did you use in 3.11 Kayella?

I went Fire-Eater, then Scale of Esh, then Baranite Preacher, then Redemption Knights and Spiders. Tried Primal Crushclaw as well. Cute spectre. But did almost league with RK.

I play spectres for a long time. Only recently we get useful melee spectres, so for me they are the most fun.


But I'm mostly sad about PCC not in Heist. I theorycrafted a meme build for them :\ I think it could actually be workable build too.

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kayella wrote:

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Furywrath wrote:

What spectres did you use in 3.11 Kayella?

I went Fire-Eater, then Scale of Esh, then Baranite Preacher, then Redemption Knights and Spiders. Tried Primal Crushclaw as well. Cute spectre. But did almost league with RK.

I play spectres for a long time. Only recently we get useful melee spectres, so for me they are the most fun.


But I'm mostly sad about PCC not in Heist. I theorycrafted a meme build for them :\ I think it could actually be workable build too.

Do you have to do much gem/gear swapping with RK's for bossing? I wanted to try S&S I just had concerns that bossing was going to be super annoying.

Hey Kay, I want to say firstly that you put an insane level of effort into these builds, so, huge kudos for that.

I've never played a summoner in PoE. But I sort of want a bit more of a "relaxed" build for farming this league. And a build that had a lot more survivability.

I have been eye-balling your Spectre's & Spiders build, (I just really want to be tanky) and I just had one question, if you have the time, can you point out the key differences from your perspective between that build of yours, and the "Carry my golems" Carrion build?

I am still not sure which I want to go with.

Thank you!

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Vaildez wrote:

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kayella wrote:

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Furywrath wrote:

What spectres did you use in 3.11 Kayella?

I went Fire-Eater, then Scale of Esh, then Baranite Preacher, then Redemption Knights and Spiders. Tried Primal Crushclaw as well. Cute spectre. But did almost league with RK.

I play spectres for a long time. Only recently we get useful melee spectres, so for me they are the most fun.


But I'm mostly sad about PCC not in Heist. I theorycrafted a meme build for them :\ I think it could actually be workable build too.

Do you have to do much gem/gear swapping with RK's for bossing? I wanted to try S&S I just had concerns that bossing was going to be super annoying.

Cant answer for new league obviously but for harvest all I switched was put on shield with holy flame totem instead of arakalis fang for bosses as you cant keep the spiders up on bosees without trashmobs.
So 1 fast gear swap and 1 more skill to hit, not bad at all.