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Hey all,

I've been trying this build out (spectre and spiders) and love it. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing though for bosses. 4 watchstone conquerors are near impossible for me. The spectres are dying almost instantly on fights.

I know spectre + spiders isn't best on bosses, but it is just not viable at all for these fights and eventually Sirus? I don't know how to link my gear in here, but I created a pastebin with my tree and gear.

Any advice would be great - thanks in advance!

https://pastebin.com/M8sssdV6
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kayella wrote:
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muramiri wrote:

where can i find the new lvling scheme?
what you say is much like my last league attempts with skeletons/srs and infernal legion


Not public yet... It's just notes in word doc. It's the full walkthrough with lots of detail, so it's too big to put into the guide on first page. Don't know where I can upload for sharing though. Hm.


Google Docs
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kingcuda13 wrote:
Hey all,

I've been trying this build out (spectre and spiders) and love it. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing though for bosses. 4 watchstone conquerors are near impossible for me. The spectres are dying almost instantly on fights.

I know spectre + spiders isn't best on bosses, but it is just not viable at all for these fights and eventually Sirus? I don't know how to link my gear in here, but I created a pastebin with my tree and gear.

Any advice would be great - thanks in advance!

https://pastebin.com/M8sssdV6


From what i see, you S&S setup can reach 5kk total Sirius DPS (from spectres only), that is twice the DPS i had on my first Sirius AW8 kill, so my only advice is to learn the boss attacks, and if you can't do it on S&S, switch to pure spectres (Sentries are my recommendation, Scales of Esh are the second best, IMO) that is tankier and has more boss DPS in order to understand wtf is happening on the screen.
TLDR> fight more bosses to learn how to fight em better.
btw, Kay, i just understood one thing.
As veteran players, we can lvl with almost any minion skill comfortable and fast enough, cuz my time with SRS + Turongs is the same as SRS popcorn, Skellie, fast spectres and all other lvling methods we tested pre-Harvest, so i guess your idea to test lvling with a friend that just started is the best method to pick a newb friendly lvling setup
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muramiri wrote:
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kingcuda13 wrote:
Hey all,

I've been trying this build out (spectre and spiders) and love it. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing though for bosses. 4 watchstone conquerors are near impossible for me. The spectres are dying almost instantly on fights.

I know spectre + spiders isn't best on bosses, but it is just not viable at all for these fights and eventually Sirus? I don't know how to link my gear in here, but I created a pastebin with my tree and gear.

Any advice would be great - thanks in advance!

https://pastebin.com/M8sssdV6


From what i see, you S&S setup can reach 5kk total Sirius DPS (from spectres only), that is twice the DPS i had on my first Sirius AW8 kill, so my only advice is to learn the boss attacks, and if you can't do it on S&S, switch to pure spectres (Sentries are my recommendation, Scales of Esh are the second best, IMO) that is tankier and has more boss DPS in order to understand wtf is happening on the screen.
TLDR> fight more bosses to learn how to fight em better.


Thing is I'm not really dying from the bosses per say, but my spectres are dying almost right at the start. For instance I just tried Sirus, but they are just dying, leading me to just running around trying to raise random spectres from the desecrate.
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muramiri wrote:
btw, Kay, i just understood one thing.
As veteran players, we can lvl with almost any minion skill comfortable and fast enough, cuz my time with SRS + Turongs is the same as SRS popcorn, Skellie, fast spectres and all other lvling methods we tested pre-Harvest, so i guess your idea to test lvling with a friend that just started is the best method to pick a newb friendly lvling setup


Yes! I think old players forget that we know a lot about the game. So we think something is 'of course everyone knows it' is actually not simple or easy.

My friend never played PC games before too! So it's a really good newbie test :)


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muramiri wrote:

Google Docs


Hm. I think it's not good for privacy though...
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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Sep 9, 2020, 11:24:49 PM
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kingcuda13 wrote:

Thing is I'm not really dying from the bosses per say, but my spectres are dying almost right at the start. For instance I just tried Sirus, but they are just dying, leading me to just running around trying to raise random spectres from the desecrate.


Try change Enduring Bond cluster -> Indomitable Army cluster. That should increase survivability. It's a big help for Sirus fight because Die beam puts a lot of bleed onto minions and when they move they die quickly (I think this is why people lose AG in Sirus fight)
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Marks
Marks apply the curse debuff on a single target and cannot be applied to more than one target.
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Curses that are considered Marks are Warlord's Mark, Poacher's Mark, Assassin's Mark and Sniper's Mark (which is the reworked Projectile Weakness).
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2934146

GGG are reworking PW. It'll be pretty much useless for RS if they will make it so only one enemy can have the curse applied. -_-
Hello,

I just wanted to thank Kayella for this build. This is my first one as I started 2 months ago. I really enjoyed it and would play it again in next league if necro wasn't nerfed.

Thank you Kay

:)
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Kewa wrote:
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Marks
Marks apply the curse debuff on a single target and cannot be applied to more than one target.
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Curses that are considered Marks are Warlord's Mark, Poacher's Mark, Assassin's Mark and Sniper's Mark (which is the reworked Projectile Weakness).
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2934146

GGG are reworking PW. It'll be pretty much useless for RS if they will make it so only one enemy can have the curse applied. -_-

Also
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will Death Mark be modifed to become a Mark now? Or renamed to be clearly not a Mark?

Yes

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