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Torguemada wrote:

I feel that Replica Shroud of the Lightless seems like it could have some potential for this build, with six Abyss Jewels you could get for example:
240 life
102-156 additional phys damage to minions
36% increased attack/cast speed for minions
72% increased maximum life for minions

or maybe 60% to all ele resistances for yourself instead of the minion life

Could be really powerful for Kenshiro AG :)
Just move the AG gem to a 6link helmet.

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ententrainor wrote:

edit: Kay, maybe you want to add smoke mine for leveling? It will make the progress faster. You can put the detonate button on your left click.

Hm. I'm not sure if I like using it because of needing two buttons... I was thinking to just use the basic blink skill because they are easy to understand for new players. (I know smoke gren it' pretty good for jumping terrain featurse though!)

If you have detonate mine on leftclick and always attack in place activating it's just like flame dash/blink with an extra ms-boost. Works pretty fine with an onys amulet, which you will need anyway for gems. :)

i see the leveling shenanigans start again.

Here is my lvling setup i tried a few times

https://pastebin.com/FV6sMeBW

Everything is pretty simple:

Main links are
4L Turong Spectres (with anything, really doesn't matter that much as long as the gem has an effect on the spectre: minion dmg, combustion, ele army, lmp/gmp, feeding frenzy, whatever you have colors for)
4L SRS with minion dmg, melee phys and unleash
3L Skitterbots with infernal legion and minion dmg
Unlinked Zombies, golem, flame dash, storm brand, convocation.

Passive tree goes to Enduring Bond > Lord of the Dead > Gravepact > Death Attunemet with some life in between, then elemental equilibrium > Righteous Army and Redemption > and more life.

Single target is strong, clear and speed... not so much, but comfortable enough.

The gem walkthrough will be something like this:
lvl 1-4 Freezing Pulse+arcane surge
lvl 4-8 HFT+Phantasms and SRS+Phantasms
lvl 8-16 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms
lvl 16-18 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 18-34ish HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 34ish -38 Turnong Spectres+combustion+other support gems, SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 38+ add unleash to SRS

and in the free sockets use movement and other utility skills

Turongs are very tanky, Piety A4 beam dropped em to around 60% HP, and that beam is by far the most powerful minion killer

I've searched the delve 10 minutes long, no turong there. Is there a hint? :D

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ententrainor wrote:

I've searched the delve 10 minutes long, no turong there. Is there a hint? :D

well, from what i noticed, you can't desecrate it (like Redemption spectres)
and they are pretty common on lowest delve lvl, there is no way you dont find one during first delve

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muramiri wrote:

i see the leveling shenanigans start again.

Here is my lvling setup i tried a few times

Spoiler

https://pastebin.com/FV6sMeBW

Everything is pretty simple:

Main links are
4L Turong Spectres (with anything, really doesn't matter that much as long as the gem has an effect on the spectre: minion dmg, combustion, ele army, lmp/gmp, feeding frenzy, whatever you have colors for)
4L SRS with minion dmg, melee phys and unleash
3L Skitterbots with infernal legion and minion dmg
Unlinked Zombies, golem, flame dash, storm brand, convocation.

Passive tree goes to Enduring Bond > Lord of the Dead > Gravepact > Death Attunemet with some life in between, then elemental equilibrium > Righteous Army and Redemption > and more life.

Single target is strong, clear and speed... not so much, but comfortable enough.

The gem walkthrough will be something like this:
lvl 1-4 Freezing Pulse+arcane surge
lvl 4-8 HFT+Phantasms and SRS+Phantasms
lvl 8-16 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms
lvl 16-18 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 18-34ish HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 34ish -38 Turnong Spectres+combustion+other support gems, SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 38+ add unleash to SRS

and in the free sockets use movement and other utility skills

Turongs are very tanky, Piety A4 beam dropped em to around 60% HP, and that beam is by far the most powerful minion killer

Actually I will go back to skeleton for 3.12! I've levelled to act 5 three times to test different ways and I asked my friend to also test new guide. She started POE in Harvest league with SRS levelling, and said new skeleton levelling is much easier. New way to level up also works well if you have bad luck and only 3-link for everything (me in SSF).

Oh this time I will suggest carnage chieftain spectre for act 3-4 because frenzy charges are like 50% more damage for minions. Zombies and skeletons become really powerful and it doesn't matter so much if skeletons die against hard boss like piety. Just summon more.

This is just for general guide/newbie guide, so it's easier to play. If you can use something like Turong and understand how to summon it then it's really good too!

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ententrainor wrote:

I've searched the delve 10 minutes long, no turong there. Is there a hint? :D

I found it after travelling some encounters, but I killed them on the path, so after I finished encounter I went back to raise it.

I also tried the cavestalker. It's the one that shoots the invisible beam and surprise kills you in delve. It's also not bad.

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muramiri wrote:

well, from what i noticed, you can't desecrate it (like Redemption spectres)
and they are pretty common on lowest delve lvl, there is no way you dont find one during first delve

oh, I've only tried to desecrate. My bad. Thank you.

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kayella wrote:

Spoiler

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muramiri wrote:

i see the leveling shenanigans start again.

Here is my lvling setup i tried a few times

Spoiler

https://pastebin.com/FV6sMeBW

Everything is pretty simple:

Main links are
4L Turong Spectres (with anything, really doesn't matter that much as long as the gem has an effect on the spectre: minion dmg, combustion, ele army, lmp/gmp, feeding frenzy, whatever you have colors for)
4L SRS with minion dmg, melee phys and unleash
3L Skitterbots with infernal legion and minion dmg
Unlinked Zombies, golem, flame dash, storm brand, convocation.

Passive tree goes to Enduring Bond > Lord of the Dead > Gravepact > Death Attunemet with some life in between, then elemental equilibrium > Righteous Army and Redemption > and more life.

Single target is strong, clear and speed... not so much, but comfortable enough.

The gem walkthrough will be something like this:
lvl 1-4 Freezing Pulse+arcane surge
lvl 4-8 HFT+Phantasms and SRS+Phantasms
lvl 8-16 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms
lvl 16-18 HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+phantasms and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 18-34ish HFT+Phantasms+combustion and SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 34ish -38 Turnong Spectres+combustion+other support gems, SRS+Minion dmg+melee phys and Infernal Skitterbots
lvl 38+ add unleash to SRS

and in the free sockets use movement and other utility skills

Turongs are very tanky, Piety A4 beam dropped em to around 60% HP, and that beam is by far the most powerful minion killer

Actually I will go back to skeleton for 3.12!

Spoiler

I've levelled to act 5 three times to test different ways and I asked my friend to also test new guide. She started POE in Harvest league with SRS levelling, and said new skeleton levelling is much easier. New way to level up also works well if you have bad luck and only 3-link for everything (me in SSF).

Oh this time I will suggest carnage chieftain spectre for act 3-4 because frenzy charges are like 50% more damage for minions. Zombies and skeletons become really powerful and it doesn't matter so much if skeletons die against hard boss like piety. Just summon more.

This is just for general guide/newbie guide, so it's easier to play. If you can use something like Turong and understand how to summon it then it's really good too!

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ententrainor wrote:

I've searched the delve 10 minutes long, no turong there. Is there a hint? :D

I found it after travelling some encounters, but I killed them on the path, so after I finished encounter I went back to raise it.

I also tried the cavestalker. It's the one that shoots the invisible beam and surprise kills you in delve. It's also not bad.

where can i find the new lvling scheme?
what you say is much like my last league attempts with skeletons/srs and infernal legion

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muramiri wrote:

where can i find the new lvling scheme?
what you say is much like my last league attempts with skeletons/srs and infernal legion

Not public yet... It's just notes in word doc. It's the full walkthrough with lots of detail, so it's too big to put into the guide on first page. Don't know where I can upload for sharing though. Hm.