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Geshemancer wrote:
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trancenergy11 wrote:
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Geshemancer wrote:

If you can, quote me when you make the guide.



High Budget Bone Helm or Hubris Circlet with Lab Enchant (better for ci):


(estimated crafting budget - 35ex, can sell for 55-80ex depending on rolls and enchants)

1 - Get i86 Shaper Bone (130c) or Hubris Circlet with lab ench (like 8-10ex).

2 - Awakener orb it into Elder + Shaper helm (4ex).

3 - Buy Horror Essence and spam it until +3 minion gems. Average chance to hit is 1/33 so I suggest buying like 70 or at least 50. U can sell the extra ones bulk for a higher price later or use them to make another helm an sell it.
(70 essence ~ 16ex)

4 - Once u've hit +3 gems make sure the mods are removable with harvest. If they're not removable than ull have to take anuls for stuff like rarity/mana/block recovery/attributes. If its just mana u can keep the helm for urself if ur tight on budget. U won't be able to get ES/life onto it (and have trouble selling it) but it will still give u the high budget dps.

5 - Next step is getting minion damage onto it. Craft cannot roll caster mods and block all suffs, then harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod. So by percent chance this craft to hit any minion damage tier will cost around 10-15ex if ur buyin the crafts. But its much cheaper growing seeds urself.

6 - Now get hypo onto it. Block prefs, bench craft cold res and augment cold onto it (1/3 chance to hit t1 hypo). If u miss -> remove crafted mod, remove cold and redo this step until t1 hypo (cost like 30-100c)

7 - Final step is getting crit damage onto it. Just augment caster (1/3 chance same as hypo to hit t1 crit). And remove/add cater if u miss (cost like 15-50c).

So the total crafting cost on average is around 35ex (this is much lower if ur growing seeds urself an not buying harvest crafts). You can get lucky and finish this helm in like 10-15ex. U can also get very unlucky and not finish it in 30. So i suggest not attempting to craft this without at least 35ex budget or u might lose all your currency and not complete the helm.

If i Buy an Elder influenced bone helmet with enchant, will it matter? i can craft it the same with the awakening orb right?

Whta do you mean by "harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod."

what kind of influence?
Should I use southbound gloves on my AG even if I'm using slave drivers as spectres?

Thanks in advance!
Last edited by gugaokra#7109 on Aug 4, 2020, 8:32:22 PM
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Geshemancer wrote:

Whta do you mean by "harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod."

what kind of influence?


I think he meant the harvest mod "Remove a random Influence modifier from an item and add a new Influence modifier" which you can randomly gain from planting (blue T4) Primal Blisterfruit
i'm about to finish base build, which should i choose next?
which is better? cost higher?
pure spectre or spider?

which is your recommendation?

pure spectre for boss killing?
spider for mapping?
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D2Junkie wrote:


I don't like Elemental Focus for mapping because it takes out the freeze, which is pretty nice for mapping. You would really need to have very high DPS (and high minion attack speed, which is the hard part imo) so that your RS can take out every pack in one hit.


So once we have the damage to one shot the packs then going AElemental Focus would be better than DMS?[/quote]

If you are speaking about helmet gems, you should use:
MAPS - Spectres + a.GMP + a. Fork/a. Chain (your preferable from those two) + a. Ele dmg with attack
Boss - Spectres + a. Ele Focus + Deathmark + a. Ele dmg with attack

If you are speaking about 6L chest:
Spectres + a.GMP + a. Minion Dmg + a. Vicious Projectiles + Deathmark + a. Ele dmg with attack
For uber bosses like conquerors etc, change a.GMP with Hypotermia (if u have only green socket) or with a. Elemental Focuse (if u use white socket)[/quote]

Hmm wouldn’t awakened vicious projectiles support do more damage than either fork or chain , since it is a projectile attack from sentries , maybe Kay can clarify.[/quote]


I've checked based on Ghazy uber geared summoner - a. Ele Focuse provides some more DPS than a. Viciuos Proj.

But when i'm thinking about it - ele focuse prevent from freezing/chilling, while Visious doesn't, so this should work better even on bosses. Therefore, AVP seems a bit weaker in pure numbers, but in overal gameplay, i think it's stronger than AEF.

In Ghazy PoB, AVP gives 36,2mln per spectre, while AEF gives 40,7mln.
Still, those numbers are insane, same as his gear, so after putting his helmet on my character, i receive AVP 9,2 mln per spectre, and with AEF 9,5 mln - so it's not that big, to resign from chilling/freezing enemeis.

Summary:
Awaken Elemental Focuse provides more DPS than A. Vicious Projectiles, but at the cost of elemental ailments. The DPS difference isn't that high, to resign from Ailments, therefor i suggeest AVP over AEF for those with uber minion helmets.
Heya, what are the perks to using hubris instead of bone helmet?
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grootoo wrote:
Heya, what are the perks to using hubris instead of bone helmet?


Hubris gives more ES, and is much cheaper than Bone Helmet. While Bone Helmet increased dmg of minions as an implicit.
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wiwigvn wrote:
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Geshemancer wrote:

Whta do you mean by "harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod."

what kind of influence?


I think he meant the harvest mod "Remove a random Influence modifier from an item and add a new Influence modifier" which you can randomly gain from planting (blue T4) Primal Blisterfruit

Yea, i've done that already, was super unlucky though throughout all the crafting process...
They have changed it. when you char leave you corpse go to no matter of the map device. what is the requirement for a a pvp char to enable on your account. There is no more leo. So just a lvl 28 char?
I had some useful cluster jewels drop today, so thought I would give them a go.

After some time in the garden using up a bunch of stored crafts, I ended up with a large (8 passive) with Overshock and Vengeful Commander, and two mediums (4 passive and 5 passive) each with First among Equals and VC.

As much as it goes against my inherent laziness, I had to lose my beloved second Profane Proxy, so that the skitters would apply Shock so as to take advantage of these jewels.

After making (quite) a few adjustments to the tree to reach the clusters, my POB minion DPS went from 450k to 1.2M - that is huge, I do notice things dying quite a bit quicker too!

I had to lose quite a few minion life nodes, but they don't seem any squishier :)

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