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I'm not gonna lie. I don't think I can really upgrade my gear to get "worthwhile" increases in DPS anymore. I have around 50 ex saved up because I was just going to straight up buy a +2 hatred wand. But I realized switching from Flesh Offering to Bone Offering (so I don't die in rippy maps) I didn't really lose much clear or single target damage on bosses. Bosses die maybe one second slower? I also want to level this character as my first level 100 so I definitely think Bone Offering is superior to Flesh Offering since I always run 120%+ juiced maps. I was enjoyed Flesh Offering while it lasted but it just doesn't feel good to gain experience and to lose it death after death in juiced up maps since Flesh Offering makes me feel so squishy. Glancing Blows & Bone Offering is more than enough to hit max attack/spell block chance and it makes me feel much tankier. No real reason I brought this up. Maybe I'm just venting a bit since I got to around 50% at level 96 to 97 and changed from Bone to Flesh and lost all the experience and have made the decision to just stick with Bone. LOL.
I actually Like being tanky too, I got 30% lower CD enduring cry enchant on my helmet and I change my build to run 5 endurance charges and Steelskin to Enduring Cry. I also got Call to Arms. I dropped Holy Flame Totem, Rocked CWDT + Immortal Call. I literally just run into mobs now lol. I think this is better for me because I'm still learning boss mechanics and I die less/slower to actually learn them.
Last edited by janaaasty#1546 on Aug 4, 2020, 12:52:12 AM
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Geshemancer wrote:
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trancenergy11 wrote:

Main advantage of ci i think is you can run a 3rd cluster set without going super low on ehp.

Well the switch is not super expensive. Also i've been crafting everything for myself which makes the cost much lower.

U get delve minion rings and crusader orb % es onto them. I honestly dont know how much they cost but the base with t1 es and t1-t2 int i got for 2ex each. You can also find bases with dex if u need it.


U can also get a huge ES crystal belt pretty cheap and crusader it just like the rings. Also im using a hh
but u dont need it.

Aul is around 18-22ex. Hatred one will give u a lot of dex.

Rest of the gear i've recrafted into energy shield from life:
. Best way of doing it is buying bunch of defense seeds and doing the rolls. Now getting double high tier defence on each is very hard and that gear is very expensive but u don't need it. My current gear nets me around 7k ES.

U will also need another cluster set thats around like 5ex for full set.




BTW how huge is the "Socketed Gems deal 30% more Elemental Damage"
Cause i didn't search for that, and it bumps the price from like 35-30is ex
to 70+ and i can't afford that, is the switch worth without it?
Should i just craft it? i have no idea where to start with it and how much would it cost :(


Well its as huge as it says:
u will do a flat 30% MORE dps with it (and crafting method for it is different and much more expensive which explains the cost increase). Also i don't think buying the helm without it is worth especially not 35-30ex. I would say thats a big scam.
U can make this budget version of the helm yourself for like 10ex np.

Here's a short guide:

1 - Buy shaper i86 (like 130c)
2 - Awakener orb (4ex) it into shaper/elder
3 - Spam bound fossil for +3 gems and t1/t2 Minion Damage (average 50 bound fossils so like 3ex).
4 - Block all prefs and Harvest craft t1 Hypothermia with augment cold (just bench craft cold res and augment cold - hypo is the only cold suff it hits) - like 30c per try
5 - Harvest craft t1 Spell crit with augment caster (only caster suffix) - like 15c per try.

So crafting cost on average like 10ex.
But i don't think its worth crafting or buying as the dps increase isn't that big over diadem.

Also i would say buying the 30% version is totally worth it. I think u can get like t2/t3 minion dmg for 55ex. Crafting it urself is a little complicated and expensive. Its possible to make it for like 10-15 ex but it can also take like 35-40ex depending on your luck. So u need at least 30ex crafting budget and a lot of patience.

I'll make a guide on how to craft both bone helm and necro aegis shield for both high and low budget versions.
Last edited by trancenergy11#1763 on Aug 4, 2020, 1:41:16 AM
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trancenergy11 wrote:
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Geshemancer wrote:
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trancenergy11 wrote:

Main advantage of ci i think is you can run a 3rd cluster set without going super low on ehp.

Well the switch is not super expensive. Also i've been crafting everything for myself which makes the cost much lower.

U get delve minion rings and crusader orb % es onto them. I honestly dont know how much they cost but the base with t1 es and t1-t2 int i got for 2ex each. You can also find bases with dex if u need it.


U can also get a huge ES crystal belt pretty cheap and crusader it just like the rings. Also im using a hh
but u dont need it.

Aul is around 18-22ex. Hatred one will give u a lot of dex.

Rest of the gear i've recrafted into energy shield from life:
. Best way of doing it is buying bunch of defense seeds and doing the rolls. Now getting double high tier defence on each is very hard and that gear is very expensive but u don't need it. My current gear nets me around 7k ES.

U will also need another cluster set thats around like 5ex for full set.




BTW how huge is the "Socketed Gems deal 30% more Elemental Damage"
Cause i didn't search for that, and it bumps the price from like 35-30is ex
to 70+ and i can't afford that, is the switch worth without it?
Should i just craft it? i have no idea where to start with it and how much would it cost :(


Well its as huge as it says:
u will do a flat 30% MORE dps with it (and crafting method for it is different and much more expensive which explains the cost increase). Also i don't think buying the helm without it is worth especially not 35-30ex. I would say thats a big scam.
U can make this budget version of the helm yourself for like 10ex np.

Here's a short guide:

1 - Buy shaper i86 (like 130c)
2 - Awakener orb (4ex) it into shaper/elder
3 - Spam bound fossil for +3 gems and t1/t2 Minion Damage (average 50 bound fossils so like 3ex).
4 - Block all prefs and Harvest craft t1 Hypothermia with augment cold (just bench craft cold res and augment cold - hypo is the only cold suff it hits) - like 30c per try
5 - Harvest craft t1 Spell crit with augment caster (only caster suffix) - like 15c per try.

So crafting cost on average like 10ex.
But i don't think its worth crafting or buying as the dps increase isn't that big over diadem.

Also i would say buying the 30% version is totally worth it. I think u can get like t2/t3 minion dmg for 55ex. Crafting it urself is a little complicated and expensive. Its possible to make it for like 10-15 ex but it can also take like 35-40ex depending on your luck. So u need at least 30ex crafting budget and a lot of patience.

I'll make a guide on how to craft both bone helm and necro aegis shield for both high and low budget versions.

A guide would be awesome!
I got myself a shield for now, and still have 50EX for upgrading (if ill get unlucky and i most probably will i wont have enough for the Aul amulet), i can try and make the helm, i guess it involves essence spamming or something?
I have no clue though...
If you can, quote me when you make the guide.

I suggest visiting GhazzyTV channel on YT - he already created great videos about the sheild and the wand, and that's how i crafted mines:


i'm thinking about switching to CI as well, as with necro aegis and this new sheild, my dps increased to over 5mln per spectre, but i die quite a lot and will have to balance it out soon :)
I don't have the Thaumaturges to test, but I found a trick a long time ago that might be useful for them to keep them from prematurely casting bombs. If you weapon swap, your minions will not do anything for a few moments. If you spam weapon swap, they will stand in place and not do anything until you stop (I figured this out trying to keep my Slave Drivers from dying in Sirus storms before they fixed that). So on bosses like Minotaur you should be able to just spam weapon swap while you run up to him until he goes underground and then stop. When he pops out, the Thaumaturges should start the bomb cast. Dunno how useful this is since it's extremely situational.
Last edited by Marbleshade#2596 on Aug 4, 2020, 3:16:58 AM
Do you guys think it'd be better to run AElemental Focus over DMS for mapping instead of the other way around? We wouldn't be able to target things but we'd get the huge damage increase to our RS's doing aoe all over the place.
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Agahan wrote:
Do you guys think it'd be better to run AElemental Focus over DMS for mapping instead of the other way around? We wouldn't be able to target things but we'd get the huge damage increase to our RS's doing aoe all over the place.


I don't like Elemental Focus for mapping because it takes out the freeze, which is pretty nice for mapping. You would really need to have very high DPS (and high minion attack speed, which is the hard part imo) so that your RS can take out every pack in one hit.
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Geshemancer wrote:

If you can, quote me when you make the guide.



High Budget Bone Helm or Hubris Circlet with Lab Enchant (better for ci):


(estimated crafting budget - 35ex, can sell for 55-80ex depending on rolls and enchants)

1 - Get i86 Shaper Bone (130c) or Hubris Circlet with lab ench (like 8-10ex).

2 - Awakener orb it into Elder + Shaper helm (4ex).

3 - Buy Horror Essence and spam it until +3 minion gems. Average chance to hit is 1/33 so I suggest buying like 70 or at least 50. U can sell the extra ones bulk for a higher price later or use them to make another helm an sell it.
(70 essence ~ 16ex)

4 - Once u've hit +3 gems make sure the mods are removable with harvest. If they're not removable than ull have to take anuls for stuff like rarity/mana/block recovery/attributes. If its just mana u can keep the helm for urself if ur tight on budget. U won't be able to get ES/life onto it (and have trouble selling it) but it will still give u the high budget dps.

5 - Next step is getting minion damage onto it. Craft cannot roll caster mods and block all suffs, then harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod. So by percent chance this craft to hit any minion damage tier will cost around 10-15ex if ur buyin the crafts. But its much cheaper growing seeds urself.

6 - Now get hypo onto it. Block prefs, bench craft cold res and augment cold onto it (1/3 chance to hit t1 hypo). If u miss -> remove crafted mod, remove cold and redo this step until t1 hypo (cost like 30-100c)

7 - Final step is getting crit damage onto it. Just augment caster (1/3 chance same as hypo to hit t1 crit). And remove/add cater if u miss (cost like 15-50c).

So the total crafting cost on average is around 35ex (this is much lower if ur growing seeds urself an not buying harvest crafts). You can get lucky and finish this helm in like 10-15ex. U can also get very unlucky and not finish it in 30. So i suggest not attempting to craft this without at least 35ex budget or u might lose all your currency and not complete the helm.
Last edited by trancenergy11#1763 on Aug 4, 2020, 8:27:06 AM
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trancenergy11 wrote:
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Geshemancer wrote:

If you can, quote me when you make the guide.



High Budget Bone Helm or Hubris Circlet with Lab Enchant (better for ci):


(estimated crafting budget - 35ex, can sell for 55-80ex depending on rolls and enchants)

1 - Get i86 Shaper Bone (130c) or Hubris Circlet with lab ench (like 8-10ex).

2 - Awakener orb it into Elder + Shaper helm (4ex).

3 - Buy Horror Essence and spam it until +3 minion gems. Average chance to hit is 1/33 so I suggest buying like 70 or at least 50. U can sell the extra ones bulk for a higher price later or use them to make another helm an sell it.
(70 essence ~ 16ex)

4 - Once u've hit +3 gems make sure the mods are removable with harvest. If they're not removable than ull have to take anuls for stuff like rarity/mana/block recovery/attributes. If its just mana u can keep the helm for urself if ur tight on budget. U won't be able to get ES/life onto it (and have trouble selling it) but it will still give u the high budget dps.

5 - Next step is getting minion damage onto it. Craft cannot roll caster mods and block all suffs, then harvest augment influence mod onto it. The chance to hit any minion damage mod is around 18% (6% for t1). If u miss reroll it with harvest remove/add influence mod. So by percent chance this craft to hit any minion damage tier will cost around 10-15ex if ur buyin the crafts. But its much cheaper growing seeds urself.

6 - Now get hypo onto it. Block prefs, bench craft cold res and augment cold onto it (1/3 chance to hit t1 hypo). If u miss -> remove crafted mod, remove cold and redo this step until t1 hypo (cost like 30-100c)

7 - Final step is getting crit damage onto it. Just augment caster (1/3 chance same as hypo to hit t1 crit). And remove/add cater if u miss (cost like 15-50c).

So the total crafting cost on average is around 35ex (this is much lower if ur growing seeds urself an not buying harvest crafts). You can get lucky and finish this helm in like 10-15ex. U can also get very unlucky and not finish it in 30. So i suggest not attempting to craft this without at least 35ex budget or u might lose all your currency and not complete the helm.

Thank you very much, i will start crafting now.
But i didn't get how you supposed to get the flat 30% damage increase?

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