[3.3 Raider] Muirey's 2h Freezing Cyclone - Raider Edition!

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iAwoke wrote:
running this build right now, first time playing cyclone, pretty fun, im pretty squishy tho, definetly need more hp...still wearing a tabula...working on hitting a 5L on Carcass cause I assume a 5L Carcass is better than a tabula, then I'll probably aim towards saving for a disfavour.


No HP on belt, so you're missing around 250 HP from that alone. If you change those jewels to something with HP and dmg mods, it will go up a bit, but you'll also need to make up the resists elsewhere. I'd recommend picking up a rare belt with life, resists, and either fortify, phys dmg, WED, or a combination. Much cheaper than getting multiple jewels with good mods. Belts with just 130 HP and resists are going for like 1-2 chaos, bringing you up by 300 HP instead.
No HP on current jewels plus get 1 more jewel soon. That's another 250 HP plus damage mods.
Once you swap to Carcass from Tabula, that will add another 150 HP. So that's a total of 650-700 HP between Jewels, belt and chest alone.

Increased crit strikes on Protector won't work when you get Resolute. Try Elemental Proliferation. Freeze for everybody.

Get INT on boots/accessories so you can take them off your tree. If you take away Blade of Cunning and 30 INT, (phys leech does very little), you'll have 7 points to work with elsewhere for more HP. You can also use Fertile Mind in the top right jewel slot to make up for missing INT or lower the level of your INT gems until you get enough INT with later gear.

If you still feel squishy, change Conc Effect for Fortify or add Fortify to Leap Slam and weave it in.
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I would definitely pick up a fertile mind to solve Int issues. That and the passive changes net you more damage(30kish) and 20% more maximum life. Using Barbarism over Juggernaut will help with resists. Most of the end items are evasion based so the bonus to armour won't do much later on as well.

Other than that, and the points Blackdeath101 made, looks fine. Fertile mind is really valuable early on to help lower the cost/hassle of gearing up. Keep at it, once all the pieces start coming together it will really start to feel good.
Last edited by Muirey#5448 on Dec 19, 2017, 9:29:22 AM
Ahhh.. something else I just thought about. Kondo + not having Resolute = missed leech when you crit. That may be greatly affecting some people's survival issues until they get Resolute.

On another note, I'm testing out Elemental Focus instead of Hypo with the Protector to freeze/chill bosses and Abyss for speed farming. Partially because I don't want to deal with 5L colors, but damn that damage increase. With flasks and charges, I'm just shy of 200k DPS. It is a bit less safe without freeze, but I'm melting stuff and have the Protector to mass slow/freeze the more durable stuff.
Yeah I saw the Kondo's thing but since they were right at the point to take RT and will have it if they make the changes in the passive I felt it would take care of itself.

Yup Elemental Focus is a massive amount of damage. Still the preferred boss setup is the Ele focus one. If someone didn't care about freeze/chill it could be run all the time without any passive changes, which is nice.



On a side note...



Yellow Map Elder done. Pretty fun fight! Was nice learning a new boss once again heh. Painful but I only do these kind of things right after I level so almost no xp loss by learning the fight. Now to spawn him in red tier maps!

Found a decent frotify on stun belt today and man it's nice for clearing. Free fortify with nearly 100% uptime if there are things to kill. Pretty good!
that feeling when you don't earn chaos fast enough to keep up with ever changing costs of everything lmao.

would love to get a carcass jack but damn every time i feel like i can afford one they go up a few C. the build is working out nice still with my shit gear though, no issues since that first night mapping
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Muirey wrote:
Yeah I saw the Kondo's thing but since they were right at the point to take RT and will have it if they make the changes in the passive I felt it would take care of itself.


My bad, I meant that in general and not directed at iAwoke. I know I've gear checked a few people who posted on this thread with mapping issues who were just high enough to use it, but not close to getting RT. I don't think I grabbed RT until upper 70's or lower 80's when hit chance started to tank, so that is 10-20 levels of chance to miss leech. Kondo & RT combo may not be the biggest issues, but is still something to take note of.

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DotsandDashes wrote:
that feeling when you don't earn chaos fast enough to keep up with ever changing costs of everything lmao.

would love to get a carcass jack but damn every time i feel like i can afford one they go up a few C. the build is working out nice still with my shit gear though, no issues since that first night mapping


Only high end gear and optimized gear should be going in higher demand. I paid less for my Carcass Jack than it is worth now, but it also has higher end stats. The lower end stuff is going for 3-5 chaos. And by lower end, I mean like 5% area damage and 10 HP difference.
thanks for the suggestions guys, i made a few changes and got the fertile mind jewel, ive spent over 100 fuses trying to 5 Link my carcass, no go..starting to get depressed here.
I usually just buy a 5link or The Jeweller's Touch prophecy. Fusings have always seemed to hate me heh.
okay FINALLY 5 linked my carcass, now what do I run as a 5L Xd
Hypothermia and Elemental Focus do not mix well unless you have something else to chill the enemies. And if you can't have both Melee Phys and Dmg on Full Life, always take Melee Phys first since it has the same damage, but without the life requirement.

With your current colors RRGGB, my recommendations are:
WED, Melee Phys, Cyclone, Hypo, and Conc/Inc AoE swap - chance to freeze, but annoying swapping
WED, Melee Phys, Cyclone, Ice Bite or Cold Pen, and Elemental Focus - no freeze and high damage, but either Ice Bite or Cold Pen will add more damage than Hypo unless you use totem or something else to chill

If you want to keep re-rolling colors, try for RRRGB or RRRGG to add a third Red. But not easy on Carcass. Either combo above will work fine for quite awhile or test out others.
Last edited by blackdeath101#5742 on Dec 20, 2017, 12:55:57 AM

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