ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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The_Impeacher wrote:
Finally!

"I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors." -- Mitch McConnell


Finally what?

Trump hasnt been charged with either of those things after the investigation.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Finally!

"I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors." -- Mitch McConnell
LOL. "Finally," a 1999 McConnell quote.

Also, Charlie Kirk wrote a pretty good op-ed on the Mueller Statement. Of course, it's not perfect because the rifht-media response was to call the Mueller Report a full exoneration, rather than realizing that the Report isn't much different from the Statement.

This isn't good for the Democrats though. For a while the Right was in a Fake News cloud, thinking Mueller agreed with them through his report; the Mueller Statement shattered that illusion. The Right is finally awake to Mueller's trickery and is going to start defending for real. Your surprise advantage has evaporated; you hesitated too long. The best time to impeach is already behind you.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Finally!

"I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors." -- Mitch McConnell
LOL. "Finally," a 1999 McConnell quote.

Also, Charlie Kirk wrote a pretty good op-ed on the Mueller Statement. Of course, it's not perfect because the rifht-media response was to call the Mueller Report a full exoneration, rather than realizing that the Report isn't much different from the Statement.

This isn't good for the Democrats though. For a while the Right was in a Fake News cloud, thinking Mueller agreed with them through his report; the Mueller Statement shattered that illusion. The Right is finally awake to Mueller's trickery and is going to start defending for real. Your surprise advantage has evaporated; you hesitated too long. The best time to impeach is already behind you.
Captain Kirk is more reality-based than Charlie Kirk.
False. Captain James T. Kirk and the Trump-Putin conspiracy theory are both works of fiction.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Finally!

"I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors." -- Mitch McConnell


Finally what?

Trump hasnt been charged with either of those things after the investigation.


Impeachment doesn't involve a judicial process.

The OLC opinion doesn't allow charging a sitting President, not even illegitimate ones like Trump. Mueller's purpose was to gather the facts for Congress to decide.


I didn't say anything about impeachment.

Mueller is a prosecutor. Bringing charges is exactly what they do. Barr has indicated that the OLC opinion wasnt a factor and Mueller didnt deny or agree in any of his statements.

The only thing he did say was some laywerish linguistic gymnastics that if he was fully exonerated he would have said so. Which is a bullshit pussy move.

Mueller is a coward and I'm glad he will slink back into the abyss for which he came. Bye.

As for Impeachment, it's a disaster on all fronts for Dems. Not only does it rally the base, and give Trump fuel for "they are out to get me" media push, but he will be acquitted in the Senate and be able to use that as being exonerated twice.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
If there was no way that Mueller could charge Trump due to the OLC opinion... then what in the flying fuck did we spend the last 2 years and millions of dollars doing, exactly?

Similarly, the OLC opinion has no bearing on Mueller charging any of Trump's family or associates with crimes related to collusion or conspiracy. That never happened, so what's the excuse?

The bullshit just keeps piling up and the vast majority of Americans are completely done with this issue.

It's obvious that Trump wasn't guilty of jack shit and that his detractors are a pack of partisan hyenas that have dragged the intel community and the DOJ through the mud.
Meanwhile, in the swamp: https://www.businessinsider.com/ocasio-cortez-ted-cruz-team-up-ban-lawmakers-lobbying-2019-5

Don't think for a moment that anything will come of this. Running for Congress is not the prize, it is the entrance to a massive fortune, all but guaranteed.

Nice to fantasize about it though. Nothing would ever be the same. In a good way. :)

Edit: I can almost guarantee the dopey socialist brigade will come here and talk about how lobbyists are a good thing or some other stupid rubbish. Or say that AOC invented this brain fart.

Wrong on both counts. This has been kicked around for years before either of them. Nothing ever happened, nor will it ever.
Censored.
Last edited by kolyaboo#7295 on May 30, 2019, 7:19:14 PM
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Because the Russian government was (still is) attacking the democratic process. That's why the investigation began.

Which happens to have nothing to do with Trump. The Russians would have done it regardless of the R nominee because they hate Clinton's guts. Also: at no point has anyone proven that 2016 was abnormal in terms of outside interference compared to all other election years.

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The_Impeacher wrote:
Trump Obstructed that investigation by firing Comey

He fired Comey and according to Mueller himself did not obstruct the investigation in doing so. You're lying and you know it.

And more to the point, what does that have to do with (as you state) the Russian attack on the democratic process? Obstruction was always outside of his purview, if you believe that Mueller believes the OLC doesn't allow for charging the president.

Some good reading:
Alan Dershowitz: Shame on Robert Mueller for exceeding his role
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Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
I'll state it again.

Mueller was UNABLE to make a prosecutorial judgement for Obstruction because the OLC policy forbids it.

I'll state it again.

Then why did he investigate Trump?

I'm saying your argument is crap.

Here's the reality: Barr: Mueller could have decided on Obstruction.
He could have, and he didn't, and him riling up people about OLC is pure theater.
Last edited by pneuma#0134 on May 30, 2019, 7:47:37 PM
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Because Trump interfered with the investigation

But he didn't, and this is according to Mueller himself. That's what everyone except for you is able to acknowledge.

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The_Impeacher wrote:
Barr will be either disbarred, impeached, indicted for his lies, both to Congress and the American people.

Hahahaha
Last edited by pneuma#0134 on May 30, 2019, 7:52:45 PM
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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pneuma wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
I'll state it again.

Mueller was UNABLE to make a prosecutorial judgement for Obstruction because the OLC policy forbids it.

I'll state it again.

Then why did he investigate Trump?


Because Trump interfered with the investigation, and allowed and encouraged the continued contacts of Russian nationals with members of his campaign and other associates.

I need to correct you here too. It wasn't Trump specifically that was being investigated, it was his campaign. Big difference.


That is ridiculous. He didnt investigate Trump for obstruction. That was a suggested result. (and a shaky claim at best that will go nowhere)

He was mandated to investigate possible collusion with Russians and the Trump campaign. THERE WAS NONE.

The investigation is over. Mueller is gone. Dems can cry and hold each other, but removal from office is a pipe dream not founded in reality.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln

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