ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Xavderion wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

You are a sucker for nonsense posted on social media when it supports what you want to believe.

You're exhibiting the same symptoms as when you posted that bogus graph about fake hate crimes. I Google searched for "hate crime statistics" back when you were pushing that fake story. There weren't any statistics on fake hate crimes. I don't even remember seeing any statistics on real hate crimes in the USA. Yesterday, I couldn't find any statistics on hate crimes in Canada. You are just full of fake news that you probably really believe. You have probably just read it on social media. When I say you probably believe, I'm just trying to be generous and give you the benefit of the doubt here.

I showed you the step by step guide. Just look up the official stats and do the maths if you're interested in the numbers. Something tells me you aren't and just want to ramble.

You are lying again. When you keep lying it makes much harder to give you the benefit of the doubt. You made the 3x assertion. You then said we had to calculate it ourselves. I responded that there are not statistics available to even make the calculation.

I'm calling you out on spreading BS again. Or, maybe I'm misunderstanding? Are you now admitting that your 3x hate crimes in Canada compare to USA assertion was nonsense?

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Turtledove wrote:

You are lying again. When you keep lying it makes much harder to give you the benefit of the doubt. You made the 3x assertion. You then said we had to calculate it ourselves. I responded that there are not statistics available to even make the calculation.

You sure about that?

Hate crimes US:



Hate crimes Canada:



Population US:

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/united-states-population/

Population Canada:

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/canada-population/

You can now do the calculations. I only did a rough estimate (and somewhat underestimated Canada's population number which means it's probably closer to 2x than 3x, but my point still stands) so feel free to do it.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

You are a sucker for nonsense posted on social media when it supports what you want to believe.

You're exhibiting the same symptoms as when you posted that bogus graph about fake hate crimes. I Google searched for "hate crime statistics" back when you were pushing that fake story. There weren't any statistics on fake hate crimes. I don't even remember seeing any statistics on real hate crimes in the USA. Yesterday, I couldn't find any statistics on hate crimes in Canada. You are just full of fake news that you probably really believe. You have probably just read it on social media. When I say you probably believe, I'm just trying to be generous and give you the benefit of the doubt here.

I showed you the step by step guide. Just look up the official stats and do the maths if you're interested in the numbers. Something tells me you aren't and just want to ramble.

And I showed you that the data you provided is unusable because it makes no sense that some of the most racist states have close to no report of hate crimes happening.

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kolyaboo wrote:

And so it begins. Payback can be a bitch.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/440730-how-the-obama-white-house-engaged-ukraine-to-give-russia-collusion

Fake news.

Literally.

It's a far right lunatic piece of opinion.

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faerwin wrote:

the data you provided is unusable because it makes no sense that some of the most racist states have close to no report of hate crimes happening.

In other words, "Your statistics are wrong because my preconceived notions tell me a different story." How scientific of you.

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faerwin wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

I showed you the step by step guide. Just look up the official stats and do the maths if you're interested in the numbers. Something tells me you aren't and just want to ramble.

And I showed you that the data you provided is unusable because it makes no sense that some of the most racist states have close to no report of hate crimes happening.

He won't get because his statistics are apparently infallible, instead of actually unusable in inter-country comparisons.

He literally believes Sweden has the most rape in the world, and Canada the most kidnapping.

This sort of brainwashing is hard to de-program. Not sure how to go about doing that.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

the data you provided is unusable because it makes no sense that some of the most racist states have close to no report of hate crimes happening.

In other words, "Your statistics are wrong because my preconceived notions tell me a different story." How scientific of you.

Rubbish, the data is flawed for an intercountry comparison, it should not even be attempted because of huge inaccuracies, and bias and little comparability between two countries.

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rojimboo wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

the data you provided is unusable because it makes no sense that some of the most racist states have close to no report of hate crimes happening.

In other words, "Your statistics are wrong because my preconceived notions tell me a different story." How scientific of you.

Rubbish, the data is flawed for an intercountry comparison, it should not even be attempted because of huge inaccuracies, and bias and little comparability between two countries.

His sources are the US FBI and Stats Canada, the Canadian national government's statistical agency. What bias and inaccuracies are you even talking about? Do you even know what you're talking about?

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

His sources are the US FBI and Stats Canada, the Canadian national government's statistical agency. What bias and inaccuracies are you even talking about? Do you even know what you're talking about?

To do an intercountry comparison though, you need many things being similar

I've already talked about them, so have others.

The US data is biased low, as per the paper I showed, over half of hate crimes go unreported at the very least. Furthermore, not all police departments record/report hate crimes, notably many southern states.

The definition of hate crime is likely more lenient in the US.

Etc ad nauseaum

You just cannot compare two countries like that and call it a day.

ANd I did the math, as shown, Canada would have 9 times the number of hate crimes per capita! not 3x.

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Turtledove wrote:

Cops are sometimes racist. More or less than the population as a whole, I don't know. My old neighbor of 25 years was black. (I'm white.) In those 25 years I never got stopped by the police once in our neighborhood. He got stopped and harassed at least a dozen times in our neighborhood. None of those times did he get a ticket or anything. It was just racial profiling and harassment.

What I do know though is that it is worse having a racist cop than a racist truck driver or racist computer programmer.

Define harassment? Because routinely stopping and searching black people in a neighbourhood where the statistics prove they commit most of the crimes is just the most effective method of discouraging and preventing crime.

Just like i would want cops to focus white people, hispanics or asians if they where the majority's commiting crimes.

If the aim is to reduce violence and crime in an area and you have a limited amount of resources then that is the best course of action.(prevention and public presence)

In the end, it's the high crime area's that are going to suffer the hardest under the "cops are racists" movement. Since cops will be more reluctant to patrol and demonstrate public presence in colored community's as a result of this movement and people are more likely to gang up on them under that slogan and infer intent.

Ironically i interpret racism as "the stigmatising of a group", which "cops are racists" actively does, cops being the group and racism being the negative inferred label upon them.

I don't think most people in "group-think" even realise this.

Peace,

-Boem-