ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP
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Oh I don't think you are seeing the fall of populism (globally) by a long shot. Still on the rise in a massive way. Some of it is quite scary too, if you ask me.
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Just wait until some YouTuber gets elected President of the U.S.
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" Not even close. What we are seeing is a decline of liberalism and a rejection of globalist elitism. Everywhere in Europe, USA, Brasil.. populism is on the rise, both right-wing and left-wing. What do you think Bernie Sanders is? He's a left wing populist. Same with that Disney-eyed Ocasio-Cortez princess. All populism. The elitist establishment is loosing ground in both US parties. And this time is the right-wing populism that speaks to the working class and the masses suffering from globalist policies. The protest in France is scaring the shit out of the leftist liberal bourgeoisie, which only pays lip service to the working class, while fully supporting their economic, cultural & demographic destruction. E: instead of providing an example of supposed failure of populism in Finland, maybe look at the success of right-wing populism in a relevant country, like Italy or Brasil. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness Last edited by morbo on Dec 7, 2018, 2:46:32 AM
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" I really really, really don't get this. What of the right wing speaks to you as working class? Do you think that you are going to get more rights, more freedom? The right wing has never been there for the people, all they do is give more and more power to businesses, oligarchs and the like. Natural persons always loose in this scenario. | |
" If by "right-wing" you mean USA style republican conservatives, then you are right. But the same goes for establishment democrats - they are both beholden to corporate donors and don't care about the working class. In fact they both support mass immigration, tax cuts for the corporate class and so called "free markets" that ship production abroad. I'm talking about right-wing populism, aka. nationalism, which is putting the nation and people first and the interests of global capital later. I prob. don't need to explain how the working class benefits from not importing cheap foreign labour? Or allowing corporatons to evade taxation or move production away? The neoliberal globalist politicians in Europe are the most hated, while populists (eg. in Italy) have extreme popularity. You guys think Trump is unpopular?? Try Macron, Merkel or May. That little weasel Macron might even bite the dust - all due to a populist grassroots uprising of the workers. Populism is only starting. People are sick of cultural "progressivism" and neoliberal capitalism. And since the leftist liberal inteligentsiya is completely stuck in their ivory towers of irrelevant cultural issues no-one cares about, the right has an excellent opportunity to grab the common people by adressing their grievances. Trump will easily win 2020 if he'll deliver at least something he promised. If he'll play the usual conservative republican politics (don't do anything about immigration, more wars in the ME, more money for Israel), he'll loose. When night falls
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Populism - a European perspective
1.What is populism?
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Populists seek to appeal to ordinary people who feel their concerns have been ignored by the "establishment" and their parties are often dominated by a charismatic leader.
There are two broad strands. There is right-wing populism, which is prevalent in north and central Europe and attacks the ‘elites’ on nationalist or very conservative issues, and its left-wing cousin, seen more in the south, which focuses on capitalism and globalisation when criticising the so-called establishment. 2. How did it start?
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The populist wave in Europe began with the 9/11 attacks: the subsequent security crackdown legitimised cutting back on human rights and helped far-right parties tough on issues like law and order.
Then the financial crisis hit, fuelling populism in southern Europe amid fears over poverty and unemployment. It saw the emergence in Greece, for example, of populists from both extremes of the political spectrum: Syriza (left) and Golden Dawn (right). At the same time there was a rise in western and central Europe: Austria, Switzerland and Scandinavian countries. Not because they were so struck by the crisis but out of fear they could be struck. So to protect your country, to protect your benefits, to protect your welfare you don’t want migrants and refugees. Then you have the eastern countries where the refugee movements really triggered enormously the rise of right-wing populist and extreme parties and that’s basically Hungary and Poland where such parties have the majority in governing coalitions. They basically legitimised their various policies which now challenge and endanger democracy: freedom of media, freedom of opinion and freedom of the courts, by pointing to Islam and the refugees. That’s interesting because Poland doesn’t have any migrants. It has a few Ukrainians but that is not what they complain about. 3. Why is there a rise in populism?
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The number of Europeans ruled by a government with at least one populist in cabinet has increased from 12.5 million to 170 million. This has been blamed on everything from recession to migration, social media to globalisation.
But the Czech experience shows it can be more complicated than that. Only 2.3% of the country’s workforce is out of a job, the lowest rate in the EU. Last year, its economy grew by 4.3%, well above the bloc’s average, and the country was untouched by the 2015 European refugee crisis. But in last year’s general election populist parties won just over 40%, a tenfold increase from 1998. The Czech Republic demonstrates that the factors behind populism’s surge are both far more complex and infinitely more varied than first thought, and that a voter’s decision to cast their ballot for a populist party is just as often a reflection of psychological state as of circumstances and identity. In 2008 came the financial crisis and recession. As many people, particularly in southern Europe, saw living standards shrink, the centrist parties that had governed hitherto – and the Eurocrats in Brussels with their clipboard austerity – became an obvious target. Hit hardest of all by the crisis, the Greeks gave 27% of their votes to the radical leftwing populists of Syriza in 2012, electing them to government three years later with a score nearly 10 points higher. In Spain, the anti-austerity Podemos took 21% in 2015 just a year after the party was founded. In Italy, decades of corruption, mismanagement and the impact of the 2015 refugee crisis resulted in the anti-establishment, tax-and-spend Five Star Movement sweeping to power last year in an unlikely coalition with the far-right, anti-immigration League. The biggest advances have been made in central and eastern Europe. All four so-called Visegrád countries are governed by populist parties including Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz in Hungary – where populist parties secured 63% of the vote in this year’s elections – and Jarosław Kaczyński’s Law and Justice in Poland. Both parties only started showing their true colours – populist, culturally conservative, authoritarian – after they were first elected. They are now attacking core liberal institutions such as the independent judiciary and free press, increasingly defining national identities in terms of ethnicity and religion and demonising opponents. 4. What is the impact of rising populism?
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While it is true that populist parties, and more specifically populist radical right parties, have been on the rise in the 21st century, this is only one part of a bigger, and more important story: namely the transformation of European party politics. This transformation affects all parties, not just the populist ones. Centre-left parties are the main losers, greens and radical right parties the main winners, while centre-right parties survive, and sometimes prosper (at least in the short term), by moving sharply right. In addition to the Rechtsruck (political swing to the right), primarily in socio-cultural terms (notably immigration and integration), it has also led to more problematic and prolonged coalition formation processes, from Germany to Sweden, and more vulnerable coalition governments. Populist progress has been accompanied almost everywhere by a profound redrawing of Europe’s postwar political landscape and a continuing fragmentation of national votes. As the big mainstream parties of government have shrunk, the smaller parties – some of them populist but by no means all – have been getting steadily bigger. Although this process has affected both the centre-right and centre-left, it is Europe’s traditional social democratic parties that have been hardest hit, haemorrhaging votes to the radical right and left. It is a trend that looks hard to turn around: Germany’s once-mighty SPD is languishing at 14% in the polls, the French Socialist party scored just 7.4% in last year’s parliamentary elections, and also last year the Dutch Labour party won just 5.7%. In terms of aggregate scores, the leftwing parties (the SPD and Greens) largely offset each other, as did the two rightwing parties (the CSU and AfD). In fact, the biggest gains were in the centre, or better centre-right, where two smaller parties (the Free Democratic party and Free Voters) won, collectively, 4.4% of the vote. Does this mean little changed? Far from it. First of all, both “blocs” have shifted ideologically, with the right becoming more radical right and the left becoming more left. We have seen this across (western) Europe, with not just radical right parties gaining, but also mainstream parties moving further to the right. Similarly, in many countries, including Belgium and the Netherlands, we see social democratic parties lose (big) and Green parties, and sometimes the radical left, win (big). In these cases, the bloc moves (somewhat) to the left. Across Europe, rightwing populist parties have also succeeded in influencing policy even when they are not in government, with parties such as Britain’s Ukip, the Sweden Democrats, the Danish People’s party, the PVV and the AfD dragging the discourse of their countries’ dominant centre-right parties to the right on subjects such as immigration. 5. Conclusions and discussion
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People wanted change from the seemingly similar centre-left and centre-right parties. THey got it through populist parties.
Where populist parties got in the ruling government, or managed to influence most of the public and politics from the opposition (UK and UKIP/Farage and Brexit), people ended up not being very happy at all after the honeymoon period and a couple years (Finland and the True Finns). I see this happening more and more, because populists cannot keep their promises. It's the contradictory nature of populism, that will be its downfall. Look at Poland, an extremely anti-EU, authoritarian government, takes the most money in EU payments and is the largest beneficiary in the EU. The government knows this, has no intention of leaving the EU, yet maintains the rhetoric to the people to maintain power. Look at the corrupt authoritarian Orban in Hungary. If the EU and the establishment is so terrible, why not leave? Because they are profiting and benefitting from the EU. The whole tenet of protectionism increasing economic prosperity, has been proven wrong time and time again. It appeals to the public, because immigrants are such an easy target. They are stealing our money, jobs and women! Turns out, as with Brexit, EU immigrants were a net benefit to the economy, and the rest had largely a slightly negative, negligible impact. When the reality that is the mess that is Brexit actually sunk in, and how the populist parties had lied and manipulated the public, nobody else wanted to follow suit. There was supposedly going to be this massive domino effect of Exits. People were like, fuck that shit, we don't want to become the UK. | |
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Trump reveals 87-page response to Mueller findings already created, despite no report released yet
Trump goes on tweetstorm before new Mueller reports " " " " — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 7, 2018  | |
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Holy shit. Robert Mueller came into my room to bring me a plate of Russia and I literally screamed at him and hit the communism out of his hand. He started to yell "BUT MUH RUSSIA!!!" and I slammed the door on him. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to Mueller but I'm literally in shock from the revelations tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck isn't Drumpf getting impeached? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want to be with her. I want Hillary to be president and let in more refugees. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought they were Correcting the Record™???? This is so fucked.
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" Why is it that the right is almost exclusively the only place we hear the washed up has-been name Clinton? Probably because their fearless leader continues to spew nonsense against the Clintons? I guess they are having trouble dealing with reality and instead have to to make up false stories about other people, like the post above. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired! Last edited by Turtledove on Dec 7, 2018, 2:31:05 PM
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" This is an unsupported assertion by Trump. So that means maybe yes, maybe no. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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