[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Clutch_Perry wrote:

If you're not interested in the build then leave the thread please, thank you :)

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Lacceh wrote:

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Clutch_Perry wrote:

If you're not interested in the build then leave the thread please, thank you :)

Oh look, yet another person who attacks me personally for no reason, and doesn't contribute anything substantial to the thread.
It's a public forum, you don't get to tell me how and when I'm allowed to express myself, as long as I'm not breaking forum guidelines.

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rhenk10 wrote:

I'm planning on going solar guards instead of TVs. What are the bis items for AG then?

Double dyadus? Double singularity?
Chest, gloves, boots and helm?

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Lacceh wrote:

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grimjack68 wrote:

Wait, we were supposed to skip hard maps with reduced block? Damn... I just alc / vaal and go. Never had to give up on a map, and my total deaths for Abyss was 4.

I could see skipping the scary stuff if you're in HC, personally I don't play there because the market sucks hairy donkey balls.

You're not making an argument against what I've just said, so not sure why you're replying?

I never said you're supposed to do anything, you do whatever you want. Of course I skip 8 mod maps with 40% reduced block mod(75%->45%) as a rule of thumb, because I'd prefer not to die.
MoM alone is just an EHP boost, our primary and only defense was BO. If it's reduced to blocking 2 out of 4 hits instead of 3 out of 4, I will eventually take consecutive hits and die. That's not good enough in HC. If I die once in 100 8 mod maps, that's already too many, surely you understand.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with SC, but any decent build should be able to alch vaal go, maybe you'll die more often if your build is weaker and/or you're not as good, but it's SC so who cares. Only HC really matters and that's my PoV. Your only argument here is that 'so what, you might die a little bit more often from now on', because you come with an SC mindset, and that's not valid.

So to sum it up, my point still stands; I lost ~17% block 26% spellblock, on my primary and only reliable defense - do you understand how much investment you need to make in gear and/or passives to get back to where you were before? It's enormous, and further weakens your dmg/survivability, while other classes got crazy buffs. And no, Rumi's is not a viable replacement, the uptime is not reliable especially on boss fights where you need it to be reliable the most. So just admit and acknowledge that the nerf is SEVERE, stop trying to play it off as something you can easily offset.

And on a sidenote: if you don't play there, how would you know the market sucks? I play HC exclusively every league since beta so far, I trade 24/7 because I enjoy it, market seems fine to me.

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Lacceh wrote:

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Clutch_Perry wrote:

If you're not interested in the build then leave the thread please, thank you :)

Oh look, yet another person who attacks me personally for no reason, and doesn't contribute anything substantial to the thread.
It's a public forum, you don't get to tell me how and when I'm allowed to express myself, as long as I'm not breaking forum guidelines.

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grimjack68 wrote:

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rhenk10 wrote:

I'm planning on going solar guards instead of TVs. What are the bis items for AG then?

Double dyadus? Double singularity?
Chest, gloves, boots and helm?

I did a bunch of testing with SG's and AG setups, the best combo I found was 2 x Singularity, Leer Cast, Victarios Flight, Zahn's Cassock and rare gloves with life and resists. You could run Southbound instead of the gloves if you like.

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Utopian238 wrote:

Does Curse on Hit setup work with Hungry Loop since your curse is an active gem?

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Nahsik wrote:

All I've seen is you attacking people on this thread for contributing to it and then pulling the victim card when you get called out on it. It's not a 'public forum', it's a forum owned by a private company that creates videogames. And I don't even think you've actually read the forum guidelines.

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Vilpertti wrote:

https://pastebin.com/gwft51Q4

Most likely going to go play BHC with this setup & skill tree.

74/75% (65/70% w/o the red dream) Block without having to use rumi's.
~7K life
~2.7k Mana

Farmed shaper, uber atzubi & chalupa on AHC league with the same build and some minor adjustments on the tree & jewels should make the build same as before or even a little bit stronger.