[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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PURDURABO wrote:

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Lacceh wrote:

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PURDURABO wrote:

Mate going golems requires changing exactly 4 jewel and gem sockets and the rest of the build is exactly the same.So yes it is a fairly minor change. That was not even much of a cost considering that shaper/elder items can free up gem sockets and TV never benefited all that much from jewels outside of straight up minion damage.

4 jewels that's 60% minion dmg, resists, stats... Summoners already have no gem sockets to spare - hence unset rings - so where do you link the golems? Again you have to sacrifice a lot, and even that with that hybrid build you'll get like mediocre clearspeed. Great.
But it's clearly far from a minor change, just drop the ego and admit you're full of crap.

What power you loose on the 4 jewel slots you gain back again by running 4 TV instead of 3, and the 3 fire golems also bring their own not insignifant dps to the table. And as for gem sockets I just moved my curse on hit setup to a hungry loop.

Does Curse on Hit setup work with Hungry Loop since your curse is an active gem?

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PURDURABO wrote:

What power you loose on the 4 jewel slots you gain back again by running 4 TV instead of 3, and the 3 fire golems also bring their own not insignifant dps to the table. And as for gem sockets I just moved my curse on hit setup to a hungry loop.

You shouldn't be using WM in the first place anyway since their dmg is useless, so this whole thing is pointless to begin with. Hungry loop isn't realistic in a new league, even throughout the league will be expensive. If you wanna run a HYBRID build that's perfectly fine but that's NOT a 'Burning Spectres' build, period. Anyway I'm done.

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Melnevacor wrote:

Path notes regarding Necromancer doesn't contain any change to Mistress of Sacrifice (when Ascendant-Necromancer got that 50% offering effectivness nerf). I hope it isn't an oversight.

Just a mistake. Happened before... They have to compile a huge list, sometimes things get left out.
edit: see at Scion - Necromancer
edit2: it's been corrected.

and no Tukohama Vanguard nerf in Patch Notes?

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Melnevacor wrote:

Path notes regarding Necromancer doesn't contain any change to Mistress of Sacrifice (when Ascendant-Necromancer got that 50% offering effectivness nerf). I hope it isn't an oversight.

Ok, nerfed unfortunately. From JSON file they provided:

"Your Offerings have 50% reduced Effect on You"

So this is what was in the patch notes that we already didn't know:

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Minion damage has been adjusted, and all minion types (except Raging Spirits) will now attack more quickly, but deal less base damage. This also fixes a long-standing issue where added damage would only apply in-part to most minions, so many minions will also get up to 50% more damage from sources of added damage. Sources of increased attack speed for your minions will now be correctly multiplicative with their base attack speed.

This means spectres have been buffed for us with more damage due to the nodes and support gems and attack more quickly.

Deal less base damage though. Maybe hidden nerf to TV? They wont gain dps back from attack/cast speed.

But the multiplier thing, maybe over all a buff? Hard to tell

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Nahsik wrote:

So this is what was in the patch notes that we already didn't know:

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Minion damage has been adjusted, and all minion types (except Raging Spirits) will now attack more quickly, but deal less base damage. This also fixes a long-standing issue where added damage would only apply in-part to most minions, so many minions will also get up to 50% more damage from sources of added damage. Sources of increased attack speed for your minions will now be correctly multiplicative with their base attack speed.

This means spectres have been buffed!

No, they just normalize attacks. Attack faster, deal less damage -> about the same end-result, just more responsive, maybe very slight increase in clearspeed for attack-based minions(so 0.00001% of summoners).

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lurker14ownz wrote:

Deal less base damage though. Maybe hidden nerf to TV? They wont gain dps back from attack/cast speed.

But the multiplier thing, maybe over all a buff? Hard to tell

Wow is it really hard for ppl to read?
It's for their base damage, ATTACKS. Hence attack speed specified.

Why does Lacceh sounds so mad about everything?

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Djae wrote:

Why does Lacceh sounds so mad about everything?

Emotional unstable? Not sure why he is still here since he has been ranting and raving that this is a bad build due to nerf of bone offering. Seems to take everything as an argument.Lol the hypocrisy will be if he plays this build next league.