[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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gelade11 wrote:

Ah ignore the part I said about possibility of dropping MoM. lol what was I thinking. Extra question since I never see spectre hp bar moves at all, is the %minion life necessary at all on the jewel. I mean they already seems unkillable just from the passive trees.

Probably not necessary, but it certainly can't hurt.

Hi grimjack68,

Can you check my profile and see if there are ny upgrades i can make please.
I want to do deathless guardians and tried mino when i was helping a friend but the fight was extremely long and not deathless.
any suggestions would be really welcome.

I run TVs in helm and FG in chest

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myndsnare wrote:

Hi grimjack68,

Can you check my profile and see if there are ny upgrades i can make please.
I want to do deathless guardians and tried mino when i was helping a friend but the fight was extremely long and not deathless.
any suggestions would be really welcome.

I run TVs in helm and FG in chest

I would swap FGs and TVs because FGs doesn't help you much against guardians. You should get some mana on your gear to make full uses of MoM. The Jewels in your belt are pretty weak. You should have a good roll of life and mana on them. There is no real need to further support your minions with them because they're doing enough damage and are not dying anyway. I prefer minion taunt as third stat because it enhances your survivability a lot.

For guardians you should have around 8k combined life and mana, more is always better.

Does the "70% increased Minion Damage if you have Hit Recently" from The Scourge apply to spells or do my character have to physically hit monsters for it to proc?

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Vresiberba wrote:

Does the "70% increased Minion Damage if you have Hit Recently" from The Scourge apply to spells or do my character have to physically hit monsters for it to proc?

Yes, they work on spells. There are only a few spells that don't actually "hit" (scorching ray for example) but you don't have to worry about that for this build.

All conventional spells that you'd use to spread curse/proc EE/proc Scourge affix like Arc, etc. all "hit".

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a reason to not use a 3-Link setup like this:

CWDT (maxLvl) + Desecrate (maxLvl) + Bone Offering (maxLvl) ?

So that the Bone Offering can proc even without any corpses around.

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Tyrandor wrote:

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a reason to not use a 3-Link setup like this:

CWDT (maxLvl) + Desecrate (maxLvl) + Bone Offering (maxLvl) ?

So that the Bone Offering can proc even without any corpses around.

I would expect this to be the best way to incorporate Bone Offering.
You need to color your gems in the right order though. Check the wiki entry on CWDT.

Haven't played this char for a while, so I still have the version with two independent CWDT setups. The low lvl CWDT-Desecrate solution should provide more corpses (for Flesh Offering and the duration of Bone Offering), but given our greed for sockets, I'd rather use 3 than 4 sockets. I'd get my Stone Golem back if I were to change that.

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Tyrandor wrote:

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a reason to not use a 3-Link setup like this:

CWDT (maxLvl) + Desecrate (maxLvl) + Bone Offering (maxLvl) ?

So that the Bone Offering can proc even without any corpses around.

A few issues with that (for me at least):

1) We are terribly socket starved. Even with double unset rings, I still don't have room for my zombies because I'd rather have a Stone Golem.

2) Pre-casting Bone Offering is the way to go and CWDT doesn't allow you to do that. I'd rather have 77%/71% block before running into a pack/boss rather than risking getting hit by spicey mods before it procs.

I have a question. Can you actually use Aegis Aurora with this build? Considering the decent es pool and block. Ty! Great work btw!

Should I consider running an animated guardian on my +2 ring? Running 4 TV and 3 FGs.