[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

Thanks for the quick responses! One more thing, why do you take Whispers of doom if the Animated guardian doesnt share our max curse limit?

I have a serious problem with my build.

Here's what I'm running right now.

I'll add that I was experimenting with spirit offering because I thought maybe my golems resists were too low. I'll pop in a path of building link so you can see what I'm doing. Survivability was no better with bone offering.

Overall, this setup is much worse than the monty zombie/baron build I have. But before the 3.0 patch it was better, roflstomping tier 11 maps with ease, never losing a single golem.


My tree:


My gear:


Damage is great. But survivability for my level 24 golems SUCKS. They're getting deleted by tier 5 bosses. It was way better before 3.0, and I'm wondering if maybe there was a heavy nerf to flame golem life? Something is amiss. Before the 3.0 release I was already running a similar build to yours.

Even with enfeeble in my curse on hit, my golems are getting whacked regularly by beyond bosses or even rogue exiles. Even after I swapped out fire pen for life leech. As soon as a pack fight's over, i'll often convocate and see that the remaining golems are at FULL LIFE! How does it happen that one golem gets smeared while the other 3 or 4 come out with barely a scratch?

The strange thing is, I've got so much regen due to the jewels I'm running, they should be practically immortal. And they were, in the last release. I'm wondering about maybe switching back to stone golems.

PoB link: https://pastebin.com/mdVD6pjr

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joachimbond wrote:

I have a serious problem with my build.

Here's what I'm running right now.

I'll add that I was experimenting with spirit offering because I thought maybe my golems resists were too low. I'll pop in a path of building link so you can see what I'm doing. Survivability was no better with bone offering.

Overall, this setup is much worse than the monty zombie/baron build I have. But before the 3.0 patch it was better, roflstomping tier 11 maps with ease, never losing a single golem.


My tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAASzDXwN4hFQFScVUBZvFy8YVhhqGyUc3B0UHaofGCL0JKoo-jLRNbk26TwtQYdFR0ZxSI5JsUuuTLNNuVH7VdZXyVgHWpFca1-wYENk52aeaHRo8mqsa9tsC20Zbj1vnnC7eC985X0Yf8aApILHgwmDX4PMhEiExYVgiECMdoyxjxqPRpAzkyeYrZuKm6GbtaEvogCmrKcIpyuofarEtAy3Mbc-uJO-T76AvorAZsHFw23KSsrTzLzNFtAf04_T-9fP2L3ZW9pi2t3fiuGI42rpAuq66-7sGOyD74jv6_Af99f5N_no-tL-Cv5J?accountName=joachimbond&characterName=Bitches_Love_Cannons

My gear:

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Damage is great. But survivability for my level 24 golems SUCKS. They're getting deleted by tier 5 bosses. It was way better before 3.0, and I'm wondering if maybe there was a heavy nerf to flame golem life? Something is amiss. Before the 3.0 release I was already running a similar build to yours.

Even with enfeeble in my curse on hit, my golems are getting whacked regularly by beyond bosses or even rogue exiles. Even after I swapped out fire pen for life leech. As soon as a pack fight's over, i'll often convocate and see that the remaining golems are at FULL LIFE! How does it happen that one golem gets smeared while the other 3 or 4 come out with barely a scratch?

The strange thing is, I've got so much regen due to the jewels I'm running, they should be practically immortal. And they were, in the last release. I'm wondering about maybe switching back to stone golems.

PoB link: https://pastebin.com/mdVD6pjr

Victario's charity and Necromantic Aegis.

I figured out my problem, My CWDT was too high a level and it was triggering the stone golem to come out of the clayshaper.
I was just looking at the flame golems present. i was getting a load of level 12 stone golems.

I seriously dislike victario's charity for golems. Since 1 more clayshaper gives me 1 more golem, and i use frenzy apes for party move speed. they aren't quite as consistent as charity, but like i said, 1 more golem.

I reworked the tree a little bit, and replaced all but one of my primordial eminence jewels with primordial harmony. DPS is much better, and survivability is fine.

that tree reset really messed me up :p

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kolownik wrote:

Wow, what a ride!!

Thank you soo much for the build man. Just killed shaper first time ever with 23l golems. Honestly the Minotaur and Chimera were harder than him. I went elementalist so i didnt have to worry about ele res.

Awesome, simple and very well written guide. Thank you one more time :D

Hey and GZ on the kill! :)

All of the bosses will be very easy after some practice. Golems do the work and you kite with all your might.

Thanks for support ^^

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Thanks for the quick responses! One more thing, why do you take Whispers of doom if the Animated guardian doesnt share our max curse limit?

Hello!

Animate guardian actually kinda shares your max curse limit.

Lets simulate without extra curse :
1. Monster is within your temporal chains area from blasphemy
2. AG goes near it and hits if with Ele Weakness glove
3. Monsters gets cursed with Ele Weak but your Temp Chains over-rides it instantly
4. Curse is still yours, even if source is not you

Lets simulate with extra curse :
1. Monster is within your temporal chains area from blasphemy
2. AG goes near it and hits if with Ele Weakness glove
3. Monsters gets cursed with Ele Weak and your Temp Chains adds to it, not over-rides it
4. Curse is still yours, even if source is not you

You need the extra curse node for the AGs curse to apply. Hope this clarifies ;)

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I have a serious problem with my build.

Here's what I'm running right now.

I'll add that I was experimenting with spirit offering because I thought maybe my golems resists were too low. I'll pop in a path of building link so you can see what I'm doing. Survivability was no better with bone offering.

Overall, this setup is much worse than the monty zombie/baron build I have. But before the 3.0 patch it was better, roflstomping tier 11 maps with ease, never losing a single golem.


My tree:
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My gear:
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Damage is great. But survivability for my level 24 golems SUCKS. They're getting deleted by tier 5 bosses. It was way better before 3.0, and I'm wondering if maybe there was a heavy nerf to flame golem life? Something is amiss. Before the 3.0 release I was already running a similar build to yours.

Even with enfeeble in my curse on hit, my golems are getting whacked regularly by beyond bosses or even rogue exiles. Even after I swapped out fire pen for life leech. As soon as a pack fight's over, i'll often convocate and see that the remaining golems are at FULL LIFE! How does it happen that one golem gets smeared while the other 3 or 4 come out with barely a scratch?

The strange thing is, I've got so much regen due to the jewels I'm running, they should be practically immortal. And they were, in the last release. I'm wondering about maybe switching back to stone golems.

PoB link: https://pastebin.com/mdVD6pjr

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Victario's charity and Necromantic Aegis.

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I figured out my problem, My CWDT was too high a level and it was triggering the stone golem to come out of the clayshaper.
I was just looking at the flame golems present. i was getting a load of level 12 stone golems.

I seriously dislike victario's charity for golems. Since 1 more clayshaper gives me 1 more golem, and i use frenzy apes for party move speed. they aren't quite as consistent as charity, but like i said, 1 more golem.

I reworked the tree a little bit, and replaced all but one of my primordial eminence jewels with primordial harmony. DPS is much better, and survivability is fine.

that tree reset really messed me up :p

Hello :)

Glad you worked it out. The 3.0 reset really messed skill trees for lot of people. Some players might still be playing without lots of skill-points.

You have some big differences on your char compared to my defaults :
- No Necro Aegis (no block for minions)
- No Bone Offer on cast-when-damage-taken (no block for minions or yourself)
- No temp Chains on blasphemy (Monsters hit you and Minions full speed)
- No ele res jewels for minions (Minions have 56% ele res now, 75% is max)

Your build is pretty much full-DPS glass cannon. Its not just the tree that makes the build work, but rather the gems. Temp Chain in blasphemy is best defense in the game and CWDT links are very strong with Bone Offer and Phase Run in them. I recommend trying my links almost exactly and then customizing after you feel how they work.

What should i get to make my life easier? im having massive problems now and cant really progress. Should be able to see my character in my profile.

Really need help here as im seconds from dumping this character, probably lost 300% xp on just this lvl alone.

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kallekofot wrote:

What should i get to make my life easier? im having massive problems now and cant really progress. Should be able to see my character in my profile.

Really need help here as im seconds from dumping this character, probably lost 300% xp on just this lvl alone.

Hey :)

Your defenses are pretty messed up and you are really behind in gear for your level.

- Buy vertex and put "Temp Chain -> Blasphemy -> Ehnance" in 3-link there its your best defense.
- Change amulet to Citrine ammy with maximum ES, increased maximum es and life. Sidbebreath is terribe as it has no life or ES. Best in slot is "Presence of Chayula"
- Try to get Skin of the Loyal. (3r1g2b or 2r1g3b which ever is cheaper)
- Link second cast on damage taken on gloves "cast on damage taken (level 1) -> desecrate (level 1) -> tempest shield (level 1) -> Phase Run (level 1)"
- Your rings, belt and amulet need upgrade asap. Get as much life and ES as possible while still capping res
- Drop the Specters and switch to Animate Guardian. Its raises your defenses hugely.
- Respec out of "Flesh Binder" and take "Mistress of Sacrifice", you want the offering block chance for yourself also.

You should have almost 8k EHP by your level. You have 6k now and half in life. Try to get same gems in same items as I do with same levels. That ensures that the defenses are working properly. I would also drop the extra pure life nodes from your tree and just build the default tree.

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mika2salo wrote:

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kallekofot wrote:

What should i get to make my life easier? im having massive problems now and cant really progress. Should be able to see my character in my profile.

Really need help here as im seconds from dumping this character, probably lost 300% xp on just this lvl alone.

Hey :)

Your defenses are pretty messed up and you are really behind in gear for your level.

- Buy vertex and put "Temp Chain -> Blasphemy -> Ehnance" in 3-link there its your best defense.
- Change amulet to Citrine ammy with maximum ES, increased maximum es and life. Sidbebreath is terribe as it has no life or ES. Best in slot is "Presence of Chayula"
- Try to get Skin of the Loyal. (3r1g2b or 2r1g3b which ever is cheaper)
- Link second cast on damage taken on gloves "cast on damage taken (level 1) -> desecrate (level 1) -> tempest shield (level 1) -> Phase Run (level 1)"
- Your rings, belt and amulet need upgrade asap. Get as much life and ES as possible while still capping res
- Drop the Specters and switch to Animate Guardian. Its raises your defenses hugely.
- Respec out of "Flesh Binder" and take "Mistress of Sacrifice", you want the offering block chance for yourself also.

You should have almost 8k EHP by your level. You have 6k now and half in life. Try to get same gems in same items as I do with same levels. That ensures that the defenses are working properly. I would also drop the extra pure life nodes from your tree and just build the default tree.

Thanks i cant do half of that as im poor, spent everything i had on jewels. I dont get it how people get currency as what i had i got 1 chaos at the time.

Tried to fix it as good as i could.

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kallekofot wrote:

Thanks i cant do half of that as im poor, spent everything i had on jewels. I dont get it how people get currency as what i had i got 1 chaos at the time.

Tried to fix it as good as i could.

You are not poor, i am curious how you reached to buy all those jewels, an infernal mantle 5 linked etc ... my actual char is lvl 84 (not a golemancer) and i've spend not much currency yet to save for future golemancer build, but i have only 70 chaos actual and this is even more than last season as of the harbinger guys who drops chaos splits ...

I use the chaos recipe but my highest sold on item was 3 chaos i think ... not enough luck imho to find something more expensive to sell.

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BTW @all: Had an idea, maybe someone can clarify: There is the new orb "ancient orb", if i use an primordial eminence and put those ancient orb on it, will i have a chance to get a primordial might jewel? I mean because there are only 2 other possible primordial jewels?

EDIT: Unfortunately it isn't that easy :D bought a cheap eminence (1 orb of scouring) and put those ancient orb on top of it, got an "inevitability jewel" ;)

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Mydgard6 wrote:

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kallekofot wrote:

Thanks i cant do half of that as im poor, spent everything i had on jewels. I dont get it how people get currency as what i had i got 1 chaos at the time.

Tried to fix it as good as i could.

You are not poor, i am curious how you reached to buy all those jewels, an infernal mantle 5 linked etc ... my actual char is lvl 84 (not a golemancer) and i've spend not much currency yet to save for future golemancer build, but i have only 70 chaos actual and this is even more than last season as of the harbinger guys who drops chaos splits ...

I use the chaos recipe but my highest sold on item was 3 chaos i think ... not enough luck imho to find something more expensive to sell.

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BTW @all: Had an idea, maybe someone can clarify: There is the new orb "ancient orb", if i use an primordial eminence and put those ancient orb on it, will i have a chance to get a primordial might jewel? I mean because there are only 2 other possible primordial jewels?

It will be any random unique jewel. Not worth the Ancient orb.

If you're actually worried about Chaos, then definitely do not do that. You'd be better off selling the ancient orbs for at least a little for sure profit.

But if you want to risk it, risk it. I use all mine for fun. I don't expect to find anything though.

-Wonderful